Then why bother building them? Again, it turns into attrition. There has to be a better mousetrap Which is why I'm bemoaning the loss of our ranged attack bombardment. The "direct attack" method of arty/siege introduced in vanilla Civ 4 is simply ludicrous. It's definitely 3, just hopped into RoM and checked And Pikes (at 9 strength) are a ways off... Maybe there should be a unit in the middle? or an increase to spearman strength to offset the long haul btw the two..