Upgrading cavalry to Helicopter costs exp ?

[Anthrax]

I am guessing this is a bug..... I never really noticed it before but, i dunno...

What you guys think ?

1. I am using BTS, w/ v3.13 installed, Bhruic's unofficial patch, Blue marble, and BUG mod (a mod that does not alter gameplay)

2. Saved game is provided below it is before the horse is upgraded....

3. There is a level 6 and a level 7 horse in that city....
----a. Level 6 horse has 28/37 exp, when upgraded to helicopter his exp is dropped to 10/37 exp. thats a 18 exp loss.
----b. Level 7 horse has 40/50 exp, when upgraded to helicopter his exp is dropped to 10/50 exp. thats a 30 exp loss.

4. I have checked the ingame guide sevopedia/civlopedia and there is no mention of the cost of exp to upgrade, just the 140 gold coins.

5. I have checked the current list of bugs and there is no mention of this type of bug/issue


If this is not a bug then obviously more documentation is needed on this.


Thanks

 

[MrCynical]

No, it isn't a bug. When any unit (not just cav to heli) is upgraded the experience is reduced to 10 if it is higher than that. Reasonably logical - experience riding a horse is not much use in flying a helicopter.

The only exception is for units with a great general attached - they can upgrade without losing xp at all.

 

[Titus]

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[Laurier]

I just discovered the same this week, trying to upgrade some mounted units to calvary, on a regular BTS game.

I think experience as a knight or elephant rider should certainly help you cause havoc as calvary.

Is there some simple change that can be made to 'fix' this reset of experience points when upgrading?

 

[ori]

in globaldefines.xml change
<DefineName>MAX_EXPERIENCE_AFTER_UPGRADE</DefineName>
<iDefineIntVal>10</iDefineIntVal>

to whatever value you like, e.g. 999
You are well advised to first copy this file to its correct file path in custom assets and change it there

 

[Laurier]

Perfect. Worked without a hitch.

 

[ScribJellydonut]

But wait, if a unit has for example 25 experience(That's level 5 right?) and you upgrade it, does it loose its upgrades, too, or just the experience counter?

 

[Jerrymander]

But wait, if a unit has for example 25 experience(That's level 5 right?) and you upgrade it, does it loose its upgrades, too, or just the experience counter?

Why don't you try it out in your next game?

 

[ori]

But wait, if a unit has for example 25 experience(That's level 5 right?) and you upgrade it, does it loose its upgrades, too, or just the experience counter?

Why don't you try it out in your next game?

it only loses the XP - not the level, however if a unit could be promoted and you don't do it before upgrading you lose the XP and the possible promotion with it...

 

[Anthrax]

thats just what i needed..... thanx Ori

 

[Purest Warrior]

It should perhaps be mentioned that a unit with a warlord attached retains its xp through upgrades (which are free btw).

 

[Purest Warrior]

...
The only exception is for units with a great general attached - they can upgrade without losing xp at all.

ah, just noticed. sry

 

[Chaosrelic]

Ok, so it sounds like if you upgrade the units they get dropped to 10 exp across the board. That's fine... but has anyone noticed if you up grade the units the unit STAYS at 10/(whatever) exp for the remainder of it's life?

I've upgraded all of my horse archers to knights and trying to get my Level 5 unit for the West Point wonder, or whatever it is and all of my knights, no mater how much combat they are surviving thru (some are now into the 15+ battles) are STILL sitting at 10/17 exp and are not budging from that mark.

I'm thinking that's a bug for sure, once you're a knight (or whatever you've upgraded to), you should gain experience as such.

Anyone else notice this?

 

[PieceOfMind]

You are fighting barbarians. You cannot earn beyond 10xp from them.