V1 - Not Afraid Of Mansa

rddc05 · Mar 15, 2006

OK, line me up then after T_Raccoon. :thumbsup:

Looking at the save, I have a few MM suggestions to get CoL faster (and maybe keep up with these financial civs on tech):

-Work gems instead of forest in Yaroslav'l
-Work coast instead of forest hill in Tours (only adds one turn to worker production)
-Work village instead of cows in Marseille (it will grow in 10 turns and we can work the cow)
-Work incense in Orlean

This would allow 20% science with +2 per turn and get CoL in 10 turns. Setting Paris to produce research would get it in 8. Paris is about to exceed happiness limit, so I'm not sure an aqueduct helps there.

Feel free to ignore or adjust these MM suggestions as the situation warrants.

T_Raccoon · Mar 15, 2006

something unexpected happened and im in a hurry sorry ill explain later. So if rddc wants to swap that'd be great. you seem pretty eager and you pretty much know what to do. sorry once again ill definitely play tomorrow though. good luck rddc

rddc05 · Mar 16, 2006

OK, I will play it tonight.

My warmongering skills are not the best, so maybe you guys have some advice on how to proceed. I know we want to move to Rostov next, but it seems Cathy's counter-attack/defending force is mostly mounted units and catapults in decent numbers. Should a wait a few turns to get some more spears and those cats into the picture (assuming there is more horse archer/elephant/cat in her territory)? Thinking maybe another 4-5 turns, or will that just give her more time to crank units? Would a 10-turn treaty where we get a tech be desirable? I don't have the best feel for these things, so let me know what you think.

Second question: where do we want that settler to found?

Bede · Mar 16, 2006

There is a spot for the settler north of Paris I think.

If possible don't let the Russian forces get to within striking distance of Yaro.

Heal up and move on!

T_Raccoon · Mar 16, 2006

im sorry i couldn't play guys my sister kind of surprised all of us when she woke us up at 4:00 in the morning cause she was having her baby. This happened on a school day too (senior in high school) and i had to drive my other sister to her house to take care of my niece while they went to the hospital. Then i still had to go to school and had to stay after till 4:00pm to make up some tests. came home and still had to do homework and then had to go see my sister at the hospital. it was like 12:00 midnight and i was dead tired i only had 4 hours of sleep and would only have 6 hours of sleep before i had to wake up to go to school today.

But since i dont have school tomorrow ill have a report up as soon as rddc posts his report just to make up for it

rddc05 · Mar 17, 2006

Hey, congrats on being a new uncle, T-Raccoon!

Whew, that took forever. I underestimated how long it would take to efficiently prosecute the war on Cathy. Anyhow, I was going to do a nice write up with screenies and all, but it's 2 am and I have to work, so here is the abbreviated version:

We took Rostov with few casualties and we have a butt-kicking army at this point. The problem is we are lagging in tech and the war is taking its toll on the economy and will soon effect happiness. I left a city assault force at the doorstep of Vladivostok, with moves this turn. I didn't know whether to take or to raze it because the city spot is not the best and we have our maintenance issues, but it will leave a small hole next to horses that I'm sure Qin or Huyana would love to have.

Oh yeah, we met Huayna and I traded HBR/Construction/Alpha/Calendar and 10 coin to him for Compass/Currency/Monarchy. Didn't revolt to Monarchy with the war on. Signed open borders with Huayna.

I think it might be a good idea to extort a tech out of Cathy for a 10 turn breather while we get our economy and research into higher gear. I may have overkilled on the units and they are costing us. On the other hand, Cathy may be getting Macemen and/or Knights very soon (another reason to take away those horses at Vladivostok). Have a look at the save and see what you think. Also, a good once through the cities to check what they are working might be a good idea. It got late and I just didn't have the time to MM everything at the end.

Some things to be considering:
-Getting some courthouses and marketplaces chopped
-What wonders to aim for
-Getting some trade routes/open borders going with a ship
-Spreading Christianity
-Getting a Great Prophet for the Confucian shrine (and spreading it)
-Tech path

Here is the log:

Turn 170 (1100 AD)
Lyons finishes: Catapult
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Catapult
Rheims grows: 7
Yaroslavl' grows: 3
Contact made: Incan Empire

Turn 171 (1110 AD)
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Catapult
Spearman promoted: Combat II
Tech learned: Monarchy
Tech learned: Currency
Tech learned: Compass
Lyons begins: Spearman
Paris finishes: War Elephant
Rheims's borders expand

Turn 172 (1120 AD)
Paris begins: Horse Archer
Yekaterinburg begins: Catapult
Spearman loses to: Russian War Elephant (6.32/8)
Spearman defeats (1.84/4): Russian War Elephant
Spearman defeats (3.24/4): Russian War Elephant
Swordsman defeats (2.04/6): Russian War Elephant
Swordsman promoted: Combat II
Swordsman defeats (4.98/6): Russian Catapult
Paris finishes: Horse Archer
Orleans finishes: Settler
Lyons finishes: Spearman
Tours grows: 8
Yekaterinburg's borders expand

Turn 173 (1130 AD)
Paris begins: Market
Lyons begins: Spearman
Paris begins: Horse Archer
Swordsman promoted: Formation
Spearman promoted: Formation
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Spearman promoted: Combat II
Swordsman promoted: Formation
Swordsman promoted: Cover
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Catapult
Tours finishes: Spearman

Turn 174 (1140 AD)
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Catapult
Tours begins: Harbor
Swordsman promoted: Combat II
Paris finishes: Horse Archer
Orleans finishes: Spearman
Swordsman defeats (6.00/6): Russian Catapult

Turn 175 (1150 AD)
Paris begins: Horse Archer
Orleans begins: Catapult
Paris finishes: Horse Archer
Lyons finishes: Spearman
War Elephant defeats (8.00/8): Russian Horse Archer
Spearman defeats (0.96/4): Russian War Elephant
Axeman defeats (1.20/5): Russian Crossbowman
Swordsman defeats (4.08/6): Russian Longbowman
Swordsman defeats (2.34/6): Russian Longbowman

Turn 176 (1160 AD)
Paris begins: Market
Lyons begins: Horse Archer
Swordsman defeats (2.94/6): Russian Horse Archer
Axeman promoted: Medic I
Swordsman defeats (2.94/6): Russian Horse Archer
Swordsman promoted: City Raider I
Spearman defeats (4.00/4): Russian Horse Archer
War Elephant defeats (6.80/8): Russian Horse Archer
Swordsman defeats (4.08/6): Russian Catapult
Swordsman defeats (4.98/6): Russian Catapult
Spearman promoted: Medic II
Chartres founded
Chartres begins: Archer
Chartres begins: Work Boat
Chartres begins: Library
Tech learned: Code of Laws
Paris grows: 12
Cote d'Ivoire grows: 9
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Catapult
Rheims finishes: Granary
Yekaterinburg finishes: Catapult

Turn 177 (1170 AD)
Research begun: Drama
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Harbor
Yekaterinburg begins: Courthouse
Horse Archer promoted: Combat I
War Elephant promoted: Combat I
Swordsman promoted: Cover
Swordsman promoted: Cover
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
War Elephant promoted: Combat I
War Elephant promoted: Shock
Spearman promoted: Cover
Swordsman promoted: Cover
Orleans finishes: Catapult
Swordsman defeats (4.50/6): Russian Catapult
Axeman defeats (2.60/5): Russian Catapult
Swordsman loses to: Russian War Elephant (0.80/8)
Axeman loses to: Russian Crossbowman (3.96/6)
Spearman loses to: Russian Crossbowman (4.32/6)
Axeman loses to: Russian Longbowman (3.48/6)
Axeman loses to: Russian Swordsman (2.04/6)

Turn 178 (1180 AD)
Orleans begins: Swordsman
War Elephant defeats (4.64/8): Russian Crossbowman
War Elephant promoted: Combat I
War Elephant defeats (6.48/8): Russian Longbowman
Swordsman loses to: Russian Crossbowman (1.56/6)
Swordsman defeats (1.32/6): Russian Crossbowman
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Swordsman defeats (3.48/6): Russian Swordsman
Axeman defeats (4.25/5): Russian War Elephant
Rheims grows: 8
Spearman loses to: Russian Longbowman (3.84/6)

Turn 179 (1190 AD)
Axeman defeats (3.20/5): Russian Spearman
Swordsman defeats (2.58/6): Russian Catapult
Confucianism has spread: Rostov
Captured Rostov (Catherine)
Spearman promoted: Cover
Horse Archer promoted: Combat I
Spearman promoted: Medic I
Tours begins: Courthouse
Lyons begins: Courthouse
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Courthouse
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Courthouse
Orleans begins: Courthouse
Lyons finishes: Horse Archer
Horse Archer defeats (4.98/6): Russian Catapult

Turn 180 (1200 AD)
Tours finishes: Harbor
Marseilles grows: 2

Turn 181 (1210 AD)
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Paris finishes: Market
Rheims grows: 9
Rheims finishes: Forge
Tours grows: 9
Yaroslavl' finishes: Library

Turn 182 (1220 AD)
Rheims begins: Courthouse
Yaroslavl' begins: Forge
Spearman promoted: Medic I
Yaroslavl' grows: 4

Turn 183 (1230 AD)
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Harbor

Turn 184 (1240 AD)
Spearman defeats (3.40/4): Russian Horse Archer

Turn 185 (1250 AD)
Rostov begins: Confucian Temple

Here is the save:

T_Raccoon · Mar 17, 2006

i see it i got it. Good job rddc.

rddc05 · Mar 22, 2006

Anyone still interested in this game? Maybe we should advertise for replacement players on the reg. thread?

Bede · Mar 22, 2006

I'll take it tonight from rddc's save if T-rac hasn't or from T-rac's if he has.

rddc05 · Mar 22, 2006

Excellent, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

Bede · Mar 24, 2006

Took the full 48 hours and tried to play out the finish of CAtherine of Russia but just quite couldn't get it done. Decided that Feudalism and Civil Service made a nice tribute after kicking her down to two town in the tundra and the nation just needed the respite.

Much fiddling with the budget allocations and reassignment of citizens to keep us from going broke and used the whip often to bring the unruly French to heel and get some happy buildings up. But by the end there just wasn'tm enough heart left in the people to carry on the war.

Started a monastery in a Christian town so we could spread the Word, we also need a Jewish monastery to spread that word. We control boith holy cities and both shrines.

Met the rest of the world, there are a column of technology ahead of us, but that is all.

Once Feudalism and Civil Service were in changed civics to Bureauracracy and Serfdom so we can chop out some useful buildings in the former Russian lands. A nice addition would be the FP, in either Moscow or Rostov. Rostov would build it faster as it has more lumber available.

Get the serfs to the south and get that land made more useful. Lots of watermills would be really nice along the Russian rivers, let the homeland work cottages into towns and use Russia for hammers.

Got another scientist out of Paris and used him for Philosophy looking for trade bait to the other countries and managed to squeeze Machinery out of the Inca.

Spoiler the details :

rddc05 · Mar 25, 2006

Well, just played builder for a while and researched guilds and optics (played one extra turn by accident, sorry bout that). Got some missionaries spamming and used a Great Artist in St. Pete to expand borders a bit. There are a couple of caravels queued up that we can use to connect trade routes with civs on the other continent(s). This will for sure help our economy as we have a LOT of resources to trade and of course several coastal cities will benefit from decent trade routes. Built National Epic in Rheims due to 3 food resources there and lots of grassland, should have another GP in around 10 turns.

We are pretty far behind in tech, but the prospects are decent to catch up due to the size of our empire. A spacer race victory seems possible, not sure about Diplomatic. I doubt domination is possible with our tech deficit and it is too late to go for cultural I think.

Here is the log:

Spoiler :

And the save:

Bede · Mar 29, 2006

Got it amd carrying it on. Will set a course for "Back Door Domination" (diplomatic) as I think it can be done if we can get the tech gap closed.

rddc05 · Mar 29, 2006

Roger that. Have look this turnset and see who you think our "winning block" might be. There might be a couple of spaces we could squeeze in extra cities for extra pop too.

Bede · Mar 29, 2006

Turn 226 (1580 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Decide the time has come to switch civics to Organized Religion and convert to Judaism. We could use the help putting up buildings in Russia and with the Heroic Epic Paris doesn't need a boost to train soldiers. My objective is to set up to take Cathy with maces and trebs before the other guys show up in force. Since there are no active overseas trade routes no one has Astronomy.
Take Universal Suffrage at the same time as the town hammers will come in handy and cash rushing troops will help a lot.
Then sell the World Map around for some spare change.

Turn 227 (1585 AD)

Turn 228 (1590 AD)
Capac shows up with Astronomy and now wants to trade luxuries. As he is everyone else's least favorite resist the temptation to trade.
Paris finishes: Knight
Yekaterinburg grows: 7
Rostov finishes: Library
Vladivostok grows: 4

Turn 229 (1595 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Rostov begins: Jewish Missionary to fill up the boats and go get some converts to our two favorite religions.
Tech learned: Banking
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Caravel
Yaroslavl' finishes: Caravel
Yekaterinburg finishes: Grocer

Turn 230 (1600 AD)
Research begun: Music
Yaroslavl' begins: Caravel
Yekaterinburg begins: Jewish Missionary
Yekaterinburg begins: Caravel
Yekaterinburg begins: Christian Missionary
Yekaterinburg begins: Caravel
Paris finishes: Knight
Orleans finishes: Christian Missionary
Rheims grows: 13
Tours finishes: Caravel
Rostov finishes: Jewish Missionary
St. Petersburg grows: 8

Turn 231 (1605 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Orleans begins: Catapult
Tours begins: Caravel
Rostov begins: Jewish Missionary
Rheims's borders expand
Yekaterinburg finishes: Jewish Missionary
Chartres grows: 7
Moscow grows: 8

Turn 232 (1610 AD)
Paris finishes: Knight
Lyons finishes: Grocer
Yaroslavl' finishes: Caravel
Marseilles finishes: Granary
Chartres's borders expand
Chartres finishes: Granary
Moscow finishes: Forbidden Palace
St. Petersburg finishes: Grocer

Turn 233 (1615 AD)
Lyons begins: Crossbowman
Judaism has spread: Vladivostok
Paris begins: Knight
Yaroslavl' begins: Harbor
Marseilles begins: Forge
Chartres begins: Forge
Chartres begins: Harbor
Chartres begins: Market
Moscow begins: Barracks
St. Petersburg begins: Theatre
Paris finishes: Knight
Sinan (Great Engineer) born in Rheims
Rostov finishes: Jewish Missionary

Turn 234 (1620 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Rostov begins: Jewish Missionary
Tech learned: Music
Orleans finishes: Catapult
Tours finishes: Caravel
Moscow finishes: Barracks
Contact made: American Empire

Turn 235 (1625 AD)
Meet Washington and Qin declares war. Oh pooh!
Research begun: Engineering
Orleans begins: Catapult
Tours begins: Catapult
Moscow begins: Catapult

Qin thinks he is going to get Petersburg. So I soften up his attackers with some stones.
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (6.03/9)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (9.00/9)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (9.00/9)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (8.01/9)
Burn up the cats but hurt Qin's forces at Petersburg, and start training some more elsewhere. He is coming at us with knights, muskets and cats. The Great Engineer born at Rheims put us within two turns of Engineering so I cranked up the science to get it in one for the faster roads and the pikes. The specialists at Rheims become merchants to earn some more cash.
St. Petersburg begins: Barracks
St Pete was working on a Theater but that's has been swapped to a barracks.
Yaroslavl' begins: Barracks
Yekaterinburg begins: Spearman
Rostov begins: Spearman
We can see into most of Qin's closest cities and he seems to lack much in the way of punch once the force at St Petersburg is dealt with.

Once Engineering is in turn off the research spending and use the money for upgrades and troop training. Qin is going to wish he hadn't done this!

rddc05 · Mar 29, 2006

Wow, I didn't see Qin's attack coming at all. I had spread out some of the troops from our Russian attack force because I was expecting Huayna to come knocking along some coastal town. Qin will indeed pay.

Agreed on the civics changes.

About the trade routes, I didn't realize at the time that Astronomy was needed; sorry if I wasted some reasearch. I guess Optics wasn't that bad a pick anyway.

I will probably play tomorrow night. Any suggestions on what path to take next on the research?

rddc05 · Apr 2, 2006

OK, we razed Qin's Northwestern city and captured Shanghai to find it had the Great Library and Notre Dame in it. Very nice. Qin still refuses to talk and none of his remaining cities is really worth prolonging the war over.

Since we didn't have any foreign trade routes I switched to Mercantilism and went back to slavery on the same turn to save on civic upkeep.

Our main problem is we are really getting behind in tech. Any suggestions you have on this front are welcome. I guess we just need to be patient and let our cottages grow and build.

If we are going for Diplo win, I guess we should start focusing on growing our pop and forming alliances in opposition to our likeliest rival (Huayn or Washington I believe). Forming a religious block won't work as every single AI has a different state religion right now, one with no state religion.

Good luck my man.

File exceeds 500 Meg, so it is zipped:

Bede · Apr 2, 2006

Got it and will see what I can do about the Chinese and the Russians. We have a cople of religions to work with, so I will also see what I can do with those.

If we can clear the bozos from the home island then technology becomes less of an issue.

Bede · Apr 8, 2006

Gone but not forgotten....War with China inconclusive as he now has rifles. WE can win this if we concentrate on building up the cities and, at some point , remove the Chinese and Russians. And cozy up to everybody else except the Capac as if we want to add pop he is the handiest overseas target.
Turn 226 (1580 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Decide the time has come to switch civics to Organized Religion and convert to Judaism. We could use the help putting up buildings in Russia and with the Heroic Epic Paris doesn't need a boost to train soldiers. My objective is to set up to take Cathy with maces and trebs before the other guys show up in force. Since there are no active overseas trade routes no one has Astronomy.
Take Universal Suffrage at the same time as the town hammers will come in handy.
Then sell the World Map around for some spare change.

Turn 227 (1585 AD)

Turn 228 (1590 AD)
Capac shows up with Astronomy and now wants to trade luxuries. As he is everyone else's least favorite resist the temptation to trade.
Paris finishes: Knight
Yekaterinburg grows: 7
Rostov finishes: Library
Vladivostok grows: 4

Turn 229 (1595 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Rostov begins: Jewish Missionary to fill up the boats and go get some converts to our two favorite religions.
Tech learned: Banking
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Caravel
Yaroslavl' finishes: Caravel
Yekaterinburg finishes: Grocer

Turn 230 (1600 AD)
Research begun: Music
Yaroslavl' begins: Caravel
Yekaterinburg begins: Jewish Missionary
Yekaterinburg begins: Caravel
Yekaterinburg begins: Christian Missionary
Yekaterinburg begins: Caravel
Paris finishes: Knight
Orleans finishes: Christian Missionary
Rheims grows: 13
Tours finishes: Caravel
Rostov finishes: Jewish Missionary
St. Petersburg grows: 8

Turn 231 (1605 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Orleans begins: Catapult
Tours begins: Caravel
Rostov begins: Jewish Missionary
Rheims's borders expand
Yekaterinburg finishes: Jewish Missionary
Chartres grows: 7
Moscow grows: 8

Turn 232 (1610 AD)
Paris finishes: Knight
Lyons finishes: Grocer
Yaroslavl' finishes: Caravel
Marseilles finishes: Granary
Chartres's borders expand
Chartres finishes: Granary
Moscow finishes: Forbidden Palace
St. Petersburg finishes: Grocer

Turn 233 (1615 AD)
Lyons begins: Crossbowman
Judaism has spread: Vladivostok
Paris begins: Knight
Yaroslavl' begins: Harbor
Marseilles begins: Forge
Chartres begins: Forge
Chartres begins: Harbor
Chartres begins: Market
Moscow begins: Barracks
St. Petersburg begins: Theatre
Paris finishes: Knight
Sinan (Great Engineer) born in Rheims
Rostov finishes: Jewish Missionary

Turn 234 (1620 AD)
Paris begins: Knight
Rostov begins: Jewish Missionary
Tech learned: Music
Orleans finishes: Catapult
Tours finishes: Caravel
Moscow finishes: Barracks
Contact made: American Empire

Turn 235 (1625 AD)
Meet Washington and Qin declares war. Oh pooh!
Research begun: Engineering
Orleans begins: Catapult
Tours begins: Catapult
Moscow begins: Catapult

Qin thinks he is going to get Petersburg. So I soften up his attackers with some stones.
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (6.03/9)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (9.00/9)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (9.00/9)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Musketman (8.01/9)
Burn up the cats but hurt Qin's forces at Petersburg, and start training some more elsewhere. He is coming at us with knights, muskets and cats. The Great Engineer born at Rheims put us within two turns of Engineering so I cranked up the science to get it in one for the faster roads and the pikes. The specialists at Rheims become merchants to earn some more cash.
St. Petersburg begins: Barracks
St Pete was working on a Theater but that's has been swapped to a barracks.
Yaroslavl' begins: Barracks
Yekaterinburg begins: Spearman
Rostov begins: Spearman
We can see into most of Qin's closest cities and he seems to lack much in the way of punch once the force at St Petersburg is dealt with.

Once Engineering is in turn off the research spending and use the money for upgrades and troop training. Qin is going to wish he hadn't done this!

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Turn 245 (1675 AD)
Rearrange the troops a little bit and start a march on Beijing.
Tech learned: Paper
Yaroslavl' grows: 9
Chartres grows: 11
Knight defeats (1.00/10): Chinese Cho-Ko-Nu
Work Boat loses to: Chinese Caravel (3.00/3)

Turn 246 (1680 AD)
Caravel defeats (0.30/3): Chinese Galley
Research begun: Gunpowder
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Theatre
Yekaterinburg finishes: Pikeman
Chartres finishes: Harbor
Moscow finishes: Maceman
St. Paul (Great Prophet) born in Moscow
Maceman defeats (6.88/8): Chinese War Elephant
Caravel loses to: Chinese Caravel (0.15/3)

Turn 247 (1685 AD)
The weeds just got deeper as Qin is showing rifles everywhere,
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Knight
Yekaterinburg begins: Pikeman
Moscow begins: Pikeman
Change civics to vassalaage so I can get the "Pinch" promotion for our knights.

Turn 248 (1690 AD)
Christianity has spread: Timbuktu (Malinese Empire)
Rheims grows: 14
Rostov finishes: Grocer
St. Petersburg finishes: Longbowman
Knight defeats (10.00/10): Chinese Catapult
Knight defeats (4.80/10): Chinese Catapult
Knight defeats (4.90/10): Chinese Cho-Ko-Nu
Knight defeats (4.40/10): Chinese Knight
Knight loses to: Chinese Knight (6.20/10)
Maceman defeats (4.32/8): Chinese Rifleman

Turn 249 (1695 AD)
Knight defeats (7.20/10): Chinese Cho-Ko-Nu
Rostov begins: Knight
St. Petersburg begins: Knight
Maceman defeats (2.24/8): Chinese Cho-Ko-Nu
Tours grows: 11
Chartres grows: 10
Rostov grows: 10
Moscow grows: 11
St. Petersburg grows: 10
Maceman loses to: Chinese Rifleman (14.00/14)

Turn 250 (1700 AD)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Rifleman (10.92/14)
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (11.20/14)
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (11.06/14)
Paris finishes: Bank
Yaroslavl' finishes: Courthouse
Rostov finishes: Knight
Moscow finishes: Pikeman
Pikeman loses to: Chinese Knight (0.80/10)

Turn 251 (1705 AD)
Rostov begins: Knight
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (5.04/14)
Knight defeats (7.40/10): Chinese Rifleman
Catapult loses to: Chinese Rifleman (14.00/14)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Rifleman (14.00/14)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Rifleman (14.00/14)
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (14.00/14)

Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (14.00/14)
War Elephant loses to: Chinese Rifleman (7.28/14)
War Elephant loses to: Chinese Rifleman (12.32/14)
Paris begins: Knight
Yaroslavl' begins: Catapult
Moscow begins: Market
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (3.92/14)
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (11.20/14)
Lyons finishes: Bank
Cote d'Ivoire finishes: Knight
Rheims finishes: Confucian Temple
Yekaterinburg finishes: Pikeman
Marseilles grows: 8
Rostov finishes: Knight
Vladivostok grows: 7
Shanghai's borders expand
Maceman defeats (4.96/8): Chinese Rifleman

Turn 252 (1710 AD)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Rifleman (12.74/14)
Catapult loses to: Chinese Rifleman (11.48/14)
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (8.12/14)
Lyons begins: Knight
Cote d'Ivoire begins: Knight
Rheims begins: Aqueduct
Yekaterinburg begins: Catapult
Rostov begins: Catapult
Paris finishes: Knight
Lyons grows: 8
Rheims grows: 10
Rheims finishes: Aqueduct
Tours finishes: Bank
Yaroslavl' finishes: Catapult
Moscow finishes: Market
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (2.24/14)
Pikeman defeats (0.60/6): Chinese Knight

Turn 253 (1715 AD)
Knight defeats (10.00/10): Chinese Catapult
Knight loses to: Chinese Rifleman (8.96/14)
Christianity has spread: Awdaghost (Malinese Empire)
Paris begins: Knight
Rheims begins: Knight
Tours begins: Catapult
Yaroslavl' begins: Catapult
Moscow begins: Catapult
Shanghai begins: Barracks
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Turn 253 (1715 AD)

Turn 254 (1720 AD)
Yekaterinburg begins: Lighthouse
Yekaterinburg begins: Christian Monastery
Rostov finishes: Catapult
Moscow finishes: Catapult
St. Petersburg grows: 11
Judaism has spread: Niani (Malinese Empire)

Turn 255 (1725 AD)
St. Petersburg begins: Bank
Paris begins: Courthouse
Paris begins: Christian Temple
Paris begins: Christian Monastery
Rostov begins: Catapult
Moscow begins: Catapult
Pick up Gunpowder then go for Rifling. Build popoulation enhancers and also train some missionaries to spread the faith(s) around. With rifles we can do better against the Chineses and the Russians. Don't need to train any troops, we have lots, but we do need some more seige engines. Get the towns growing. Cote dIvoire needs some serious foresrtry and some irrigation. Anything built sahould add happinesss and health so the cities can grow.

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