VB2-Mayan Melee
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Oddible
signal / noise > 1
I repeat my post from May 4...
I'm guess I'm just a fan of closure. If it is truely vbraun's intention to purposefully kill this game, it would be nice if he came right out and said it.
VBRAUN? ARE YOU KILLING THIS GAME?
Let us know.
Oddible said:
I'm guess I'm just a fan of closure. If it is truely vbraun's intention to purposefully kill this game, it would be nice if he came right out and said it.
VBRAUN? ARE YOU KILLING THIS GAME?
Let us know.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Roster Check
vbraun - Skipped due to lack of interest
Ville - UP
Oddible - On Deck
Bugs -
Andvruss
vbraun - Skipped due to lack of interest
Ville - UP
Oddible - On Deck
Bugs -
Andvruss
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
vbraun said:
I guess the SG rules are pretty clear eh.
1645 AD
Looks like we have a foothold in the another continent
IBT
We lost 1 cavalry vs. Incan cavalry
Infantry beats Byz cav 3-0, was redlined, is no more, got promoted
1650 AD
Bombard 2 Inf on mountain near Sardica to 1hp
Vet Cav wins 1-0 vs. 1hp Inf
2nd Inf took 3rd cav to win
1-0 win
RNG is strange today
Heraclea falls
IBT
WW strikes, try to get peace next turn
1655 AD
Bombarding Byz front and approaching units, move army to Heraclea
Cant get any decent deals for peace (Sumerians want Ironclads for peace
)
Raised lux to 40% to get more turns to attack, I have only 1 target left in this war, Adrianople, lets see
IBT
RNG is scary, Army loses about 10hp vs reg cavalry
1660 AD
Move stack of arty, cav and inf towards Adrianople
IBT
Not much, 2 cav attack army, loses 2 hp, gets healed so no problem
1665 AD
Stack is on mountain
IBT
Incan galley sighted, were doomed
HE finished in Copan
1670 AD
The biggest battle since Mayan D-Day begins, Adrianople is being shelled for weeks:
Elite Infantry starts the brave attack against the heathens, wins, -3hp
Vet Infantry continues when he sees how his mates succeeded, wins, -1hp
And so begins the great race to the top of the local Reichstag
Vet Infantry division gets the honor of capturing Adrianople:
Save
Looks like we have a foothold in the another continent
IBT
We lost 1 cavalry vs. Incan cavalry
Infantry beats Byz cav 3-0, was redlined, is no more, got promoted
1650 AD
Bombard 2 Inf on mountain near Sardica to 1hp
Vet Cav wins 1-0 vs. 1hp Inf
2nd Inf took 3rd cav to win
1-0 winRNG is strange today
Heraclea falls
IBT
WW strikes, try to get peace next turn
1655 AD
Bombarding Byz front and approaching units, move army to Heraclea
Cant get any decent deals for peace (Sumerians want Ironclads for peace
)Raised lux to 40% to get more turns to attack, I have only 1 target left in this war, Adrianople, lets see
IBT
RNG is scary, Army loses about 10hp vs reg cavalry
1660 AD
Move stack of arty, cav and inf towards Adrianople
IBT
Not much, 2 cav attack army, loses 2 hp, gets healed so no problem
1665 AD
Stack is on mountain
IBT
Incan galley sighted, were doomed
HE finished in Copan
1670 AD
The biggest battle since Mayan D-Day begins, Adrianople is being shelled for weeks:
Elite Infantry starts the brave attack against the heathens, wins, -3hp
Vet Infantry continues when he sees how his mates succeeded, wins, -1hp
And so begins the great race to the top of the local Reichstag
Vet Infantry division gets the honor of capturing Adrianople:
Save
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Excellent play by Ville!Roster Check
vbraun - Skipped due to lack of interest
Ville - Gets a field promotion to four-star general
Oddible - UP
Bugs - On Deck
Andvruss
So here's the question: Is Byzantine gassed? Did they have anything coming at you Ville towards the end? If they're gassed, we might be able to press on and destroy their civilization. If they still have got game, then maybe peace is a good idea with the WW.
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
Killer assault Ville!
Hey, that was 6 turns, shall I?
If we're at 40% lux it might be hard to press on, of course I haven't seen the save to know how many units we've got over there. Any lux near by that we don't have that might boost our morale?
Probably won't be able to get to it tonight so shooting for tomorrow eve.
Hey, that was 6 turns, shall I?
If we're at 40% lux it might be hard to press on, of course I haven't seen the save to know how many units we've got over there. Any lux near by that we don't have that might boost our morale?
Probably won't be able to get to it tonight so shooting for tomorrow eve.
vbraun
Raytracing
Sorry guys i got caught up in RL. I guess i would just be sloing the SG down. I think i should jst drop becasue im then going to be away for the next 2 weeks. SO unless you guys really want me to stay then ill have to take my leave. But i'll be lurking.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Go for it Oddible. Any amount of turns between 5 and 10 is OK when you are in a late game war. I've had single turns take well over 90 minutes to play.
I think we'll leave peace up to you. If you think you can press on, go for it. If you think our government is going to collapse, then sue for peace.
Have fun on your vacation VB!
I think we'll leave peace up to you. If you think you can press on, go for it. If you think our government is going to collapse, then sue for peace.
Have fun on your vacation VB!
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
Initial Thoughts
Nicaea has wines, which we don't have, would be a nice lux reward.
Sumer has landed 2 Riflemen on the Austrian isle - we have a sword.
Look at all those Artillery!
Holy Galleon stack!
IBT
Feldkirch captured!
Sardica deposed out governor!
1675AD - 1
Can we free the workers?
OK, I put workers on Auto-NonChange, hope that doesn't cause any problems but we're almost fully worked and it was getting kind tedious. If anyone is pissed about that, I'll repost the save tonight with all the workers back in manual hands.
IBT
Andrianople defends vs 2 Cavs and an Inf, Promotes Elilte
1680AD - 2
Insane loss at Sardica,
2 Cavs die and Army to 5/13 vs 2 1/3 Infantry
Sardica returns to the Mayans!
Launch assault on Feldkirch
IBT
Byzantines are delivering a lot of harrassment units by sea. Can't wait for Destroyers.
We build a Military Academy
New Palace addition!
1685AD - 3
Lose 2 vet Cavs capturing Feldkirch
Trade Portugal Espionage for Steel, 159g, 13gpt, WM
IBT
Elite MedInf falls but not before knocking 2 Cavs to 1/3
1690AD - 4
Bump Byzantines off mainland, 1 Cav
Wipe out attackers in Byzantium 2 Cav and 3 Inf
IBT
Herculea defends, kills 2 Cavs
Whoa, lots of riots in the north
1695 - 5
Kill 2 Cavs in Byz
Vet Inf redlines attacking a Chaqui Scout near Amsterdam, ouch
IBT
Combustion -> Mass Production
1700 - 6
Nicaea: Blistering Arty raid, Cav dies
Nicaea falls!
IBT
Hittites & Portugal in MPP
Chichen Itza begins Battlefield Medicine
1705 - 7
Cavalry promotes to Elite at Nicaea
IBT
Lost our supply of silks!
1710 - 8
Ugh, Portugal wants 1400 for Silks
or
will offer Silks, 36gpt, 410g for Combustion
They don't have oil.
I trade the Combustion.
No one else has a spare oil anyway.
IBT
Our first 2 Destroyers roll off the line, one east, one west
Destroyer west sinks a galleon and promotes elite!
1715 - 9
Shuffling
IBT
Hittites ask us for MPP and 64gpt, uh huh, right.
1720 - 10
2 Inf and a Cav in Trebizond. No losses.
Trebizond Falls!
Wine Colony!
Buying temples in Byzantium
Parting thoughts
Left a couple artys sw of Chichen Itza, was using them for mainland defense. The enemy seems to have a liking for Amsterdam, don't know if its the redlight or the pot. Also, Sumer just dropped units up on the northern isle I didn't take care of. Should be plenty up there to deal with it tho.
We need culture in Byzantium, flipped once so take care, not too bad tho.
Our north is pretty unhappy about the war. Our core could care less, they love it. Celebrating, etc. Dunno, could probably go to Fascism but govt switches during wartime can be rough. Doesn't seem like we're going builder any time soon tho eh?
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The Save
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Nicaea has wines, which we don't have, would be a nice lux reward.
Sumer has landed 2 Riflemen on the Austrian isle - we have a sword.
Look at all those Artillery!
Holy Galleon stack!
IBT
Feldkirch captured!
Sardica deposed out governor!
1675AD - 1
Can we free the workers?
OK, I put workers on Auto-NonChange, hope that doesn't cause any problems but we're almost fully worked and it was getting kind tedious. If anyone is pissed about that, I'll repost the save tonight with all the workers back in manual hands.
IBT
Andrianople defends vs 2 Cavs and an Inf, Promotes Elilte
1680AD - 2
Insane loss at Sardica,
2 Cavs die and Army to 5/13 vs 2 1/3 Infantry
Sardica returns to the Mayans!
Launch assault on Feldkirch
IBT
Byzantines are delivering a lot of harrassment units by sea. Can't wait for Destroyers.
We build a Military Academy
New Palace addition!
1685AD - 3
Lose 2 vet Cavs capturing Feldkirch
Trade Portugal Espionage for Steel, 159g, 13gpt, WM
IBT
Elite MedInf falls but not before knocking 2 Cavs to 1/3
1690AD - 4
Bump Byzantines off mainland, 1 Cav
Wipe out attackers in Byzantium 2 Cav and 3 Inf
IBT
Herculea defends, kills 2 Cavs
Whoa, lots of riots in the north
1695 - 5
Kill 2 Cavs in Byz
Vet Inf redlines attacking a Chaqui Scout near Amsterdam, ouch
IBT
Combustion -> Mass Production
1700 - 6
Nicaea: Blistering Arty raid, Cav dies
Nicaea falls!
IBT
Hittites & Portugal in MPP
Chichen Itza begins Battlefield Medicine
1705 - 7
Cavalry promotes to Elite at Nicaea
IBT
Lost our supply of silks!
1710 - 8
Ugh, Portugal wants 1400 for Silks
or
will offer Silks, 36gpt, 410g for Combustion
They don't have oil.
I trade the Combustion.
No one else has a spare oil anyway.
IBT
Our first 2 Destroyers roll off the line, one east, one west
Destroyer west sinks a galleon and promotes elite!
1715 - 9
Shuffling
IBT
Hittites ask us for MPP and 64gpt, uh huh, right.
1720 - 10
2 Inf and a Cav in Trebizond. No losses.
Trebizond Falls!
Wine Colony!
Buying temples in Byzantium
Parting thoughts
Left a couple artys sw of Chichen Itza, was using them for mainland defense. The enemy seems to have a liking for Amsterdam, don't know if its the redlight or the pot. Also, Sumer just dropped units up on the northern isle I didn't take care of. Should be plenty up there to deal with it tho.
We need culture in Byzantium, flipped once so take care, not too bad tho.
Our north is pretty unhappy about the war. Our core could care less, they love it. Celebrating, etc. Dunno, could probably go to Fascism but govt switches during wartime can be rough. Doesn't seem like we're going builder any time soon tho eh?
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The Save
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Oddible
signal / noise > 1
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Roster Check:
Ville
Oddible - Continued a very well fought campaign.
Bugs - UP
Andvruss - On Deck
We're looking for a fifth player if any lurker is interested.
Some thoughts for the team.
1. Democracy is probably not the best government for us if we're going to conquer the world. Communism may be better. Thoughts?
2. I think I could push the Byzantines back to the choke point at Adana and then sue for peace.
3. Where do we go after that? Inca?
Ville
Oddible - Continued a very well fought campaign.
Bugs - UP
Andvruss - On Deck
We're looking for a fifth player if any lurker is interested.
Some thoughts for the team.
1. Democracy is probably not the best government for us if we're going to conquer the world. Communism may be better. Thoughts?
2. I think I could push the Byzantines back to the choke point at Adana and then sue for peace.
3. Where do we go after that? Inca?
Great turns Oddible 
@Bugsy
1. Communism, Fascism or Monarchy?
Communism:
+Communal Corruption may be bad for our core but other continent would be able to build something
+Secret Police HQ
+MP limit of 4
-Pop rushing
-6/6/6 unit support may be weaker than 4/7/10
Monarchy:
+Can rush with cash
-Problematic Corruption is worst of those 3
-MP limit of 3 (not important anyway
)
Fascism:
+Worker rate is 200%
+Unit support of 4/7/10
+/-Problematic<Nuisance<Communal
-Forced Resettlement
-Xenophobic
I'd pick Communism
2. Sounds like a good plan
3. Incans had only riflemen in my turns so If they don't get rubber, they will be too easy once we get bombers
And 5th player would be nice.
@Bugsy
1. Communism, Fascism or Monarchy?
Communism:
+Communal Corruption may be bad for our core but other continent would be able to build something
+Secret Police HQ
+MP limit of 4
-Pop rushing
-6/6/6 unit support may be weaker than 4/7/10
Monarchy:
+Can rush with cash
-Problematic Corruption is worst of those 3
-MP limit of 3 (not important anyway
)Fascism:
+Worker rate is 200%
+Unit support of 4/7/10
+/-Problematic<Nuisance<Communal
-Forced Resettlement
-Xenophobic
I'd pick Communism
2. Sounds like a good plan
3. Incans had only riflemen in my turns so If they don't get rubber, they will be too easy once we get bombers
And 5th player would be nice.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I agree Ville. We've been playing with Communism over in Bede01 and it is a much improved government. The question is, should I revolt early or late?
I will plan on executing up to the choke, then set up to launch against the Incas.
I will plan on executing up to the choke, then set up to launch against the Incas.
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
Sounds good. Was flip-flopping on whether to go Flight or Mass Production but figured we're not having any trouble with shipping so don't really need the airports to get folks to the front (though it certainly makes things easier). Bombers are nice but not really necessary so decided to head for tanks. Up to you guys whether we stay on that track or not.
I didn't get to see the results of the wine as I just hooked it up but you'll be able to squeeze a bit more happiness out of it no doubt.
Byzantines are still harrassing big time. Push about 2-5 units into the old Byzantine lands per turn as well as having been dropping units on our mainland. They have a LOT of galleons - course that will change quickly now that we have destroyers. Also, they just lost their wine so they are going to be hurting next turn.
Oh yeah, last I checked, Byz were willing to give us Sao Paulo for peace.
I didn't get to see the results of the wine as I just hooked it up but you'll be able to squeeze a bit more happiness out of it no doubt.
Byzantines are still harrassing big time. Push about 2-5 units into the old Byzantine lands per turn as well as having been dropping units on our mainland. They have a LOT of galleons - course that will change quickly now that we have destroyers. Also, they just lost their wine so they are going to be hurting next turn.
Oh yeah, last I checked, Byz were willing to give us Sao Paulo for peace.
Bombers have lethal bombardment, if we'd build/rush ~20 bombers, we could easily knock down all defenders. OTOH Tanks have nice attack.
It's 50/50. Both are good. It's your choice
Now I know, how about real blitzkrieg: Capture cities with tanks (we'd need panzers ) bombard with bombers and finish with infantry 
Just my 2 cents...
It's 50/50. Both are good. It's your choice
Now I know, how about real blitzkrieg: Capture cities with tanks (we'd need panzers
) bombard with bombers and finish with infantry Just my 2 cents...
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Combined arms are very important at this stage. Artillery, bombers, tanks and infantry will all play a part in our success. Artillery till a defender is yellow or red, bombard defenders till dead, tanks for clean up, infantry for defense.
I imagine these turns may take a while to play. Probably late Saturday at the earliest.
I imagine these turns may take a while to play. Probably late Saturday at the earliest.
