Vikings, Traders, Raiders - can you conquer the super powers?

[TurboJ]

I just played a day of the Viking scenario. Very well designed, immersive and fun to play. On deity, it's also a bit of a challenge. I started with Sweden and barbarian hordes really make it feel like an achievement to win (and AIs tend to grab those great admirals earlier). Norway is much easier.

But here's a challenge: as true Vikings might have dreamt of doing, could you actually conquer Francia or Byzantium in this scenario (deity difficulty)? Have you done it and if yes, how did you accomplish it?

I love to find something that requires effort to accomplish. So although it's not a game objective as such, I'd like to hear if you've managed this on deity. The Caballarii / Knight spam is real and the lack of ranged sea vessels adds to the challenge.

I'll report back if I manage it but meanwhile - do tell if you've already gone and conquered all of Francia or all of Byzantium. If not, give it a try - it's a fun challenge!

Finally after three tries I managed to conquer Francia while also winning the game. It was one of the biggest Civilization challenges ever for me. The 'Vikings' is a truly magnificent scenario, I love it to bits. If you want to experience warfare in Civ VI, then play this scenario on deity. I guarantee you will have to really work at it if you go after Francia or Byzantium.

I feel here's an opportunity for a little challenge: I'd like to hear about your success in beating either Francia or Byzantium on deity difficulty. That means conquering the total empire - every city and every unit - while also winning the scenario based on the normal victory conditions that it has.

Come on guys and girls, let's have some fun


(As for me, I'm going to see if I can conquer both Francia and Byzantium in one game... Or at least Francia and the Andalusian caliphate.)

 

[Siptah]

I remember conquering Andalusia and Francia completely as Denmark, but I don't remember if that was on deity or my deity win was another game. I'll try to do it again and report.

 

[TurboJ]

I remember conquering Andalusia and Francia completely as Denmark, but I don't remember if that was on deity or my deity win was another game. I'll try to do it again and report.

Please do I'd love to hear how others find this scenario. Personally I've not had this much fun with Civ since the "New World" scenario of Civ V.

And how AI plays this one on deity shows that the game we have already has everything it needs to be competitive militarily - I do wonder why that stuff isn't implemented in the base game. It's a night and day difference comparing the warfare in base game and the Vikings scenario.

Reporting on my own endeavour;

It's gonna be a close one... So far best I've managed is conquering Britannia, Francia and a third of Andalusia. The "big three" (Francia, Andalusia, Byzantium) make things difficult not simply by spamming three knights out every turn but by blocking every single tile so there's no way to advance my armies (no ranged naval units and no cannons, remember). It's a really tight schedule too and you have to manage your money and production carefully. One thing that can wreck your plan is religion - if you turn catholic too early, you will be starved for money - if too late, you'll be starved of troop production. The nasty bit is you can't really fully control when monotheism hits so planning things ahead is difficult.

Anyone try this yet? I find conquering Andalusia borderline impossible, if going for Britain and Francia too. Then again, getting Andalusia without either of the two others would be impossible too I guess... Seems I've found a challenge I can't beat no matter how hard I try.

 

[DrCron]

If you play with Denmark conquering Francia is the way to go. I did it back when the scenario launched (so it was still 100 turns long) but without the mistakes I did in the early game I'm pretty sure it can be done in 60 turns as well. You can see it here:

 

[TurboJ]

I've done that multiple times.. I'm talking about conquering Britain, Francia and Andalusia all in the same game.

(BTW the new version of the scenario is tougher; the turn limit is one thing but the AI tech and production bonuses have been scaled too so now the fighting is tougher)

 

[DrCron]

the AI tech and production bonuses have been scaled too

Really? Interesting, that wasn't in the patch notes. I might give it a shot again then since it was definitely too easy before (especially with Sweden).

 

[TurboJ]

Really? Interesting, that wasn't in the patch notes. I might give it a shot again then since it was definitely too easy before (especially with Sweden).

Winning the scenario is one thing; conquering multiple empires is another thing

 

[Siptah]

The turn limit is tougher, but embarked units got nerfed, which makes it a bit easier to fight. But I have to admit my try to conquer Francia and Andalusia completely on Deity has failed -.-

 

[TurboJ]

Finally succeeded; it took 10+ full games before I learned how to do it.

...but as usual, the last city was taken turn 60 and it was really damn close - almost failed like the rest of the games. Usual result was two cities left unconquered in Andalusia. For the last attempt, I changed my conquering order and early gold spending slightly and that turned out being the key. First city conquered on turn 7; if it goes much past turn 10 your tech rate will be too slow to begin working on Francia or Andalusia in time before they get too strong.

My biggest Civ challenge so far, I have to say. Feels good to finally have made it.