Vpr4-The Golden Horde

[el_filet]

got it, but won't play today

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Anyone out there?

 

[el_filet]

forgot time playing GOTM
play now

 

[el_filet]

sorry for the delay, needed a while for another SG yesterday and somebody came by to play GOTM today. couldn't stop...

2310 BC (1):
pop warrior

IBT:
karakorum: settler->settler

2270-2150 BC (2-5):
exploring

IBT:
karakorum: settler->archer
samarkand: barracks->archer

2110 BC (6):
meet aztecs in the west, tech parity

2070 BC (7):
found khanbalik on wines ->barracks

1990 BC (9):
karakorum: archer->worker
meet hittites, they are up alphabet & HBR


notes:
settler/archer on their way to horses
tech status: 17 to IW@min
ger up myst
celts alpha & HBR
hittites alpha, HBR & IW
aztecs alpha & HBR
egypt alpha, HBR & IW
we can pay for one of them

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Need a save

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

2310 BC (1):
pop warrior

That one is interesting: Noticed the 2 AI units next to the hut do not pop it? I shadowed (got 25gp), and this is something I don't understand. My only theory (I'm still working to prove it...) is: The AI does know what to expect, and when they would get Barbs (we cannot, due to being EXP), they don't pop the GH.

 

[LulThyme]

Now that you mention it, I have very rarely (ever?) seen barbs near AIs that could be explained by GHs, at any diff level...

 

[TimBentley]

I distinctly remember my scout dying to barbs an AI got from a hut. Here, if you want proof.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

I've seen that often enough, including them popping a hut next to my city, costing me a Worker stack. However, *sometimes* they avoid certain huts, even for centuries right next to their borders.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

You're correct about the AI avoiding huts right up on their borders for centuries.

@ el filet, please post the save

 

[el_filet]

and here the save...
sorry for that, i hate to delay games unneccesary. that happens if you play after midnight...

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

got it, play soon

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

looked at the save. I'm gonna post a dot map before playing. need to think on this and get group input.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Here's the dotmap.

Priority 1 is to secure horses. Then think we secure ivory for denial. Then open to suggestions. Thoughts on what to build and where?

 

[plarq]

Agree on Horse and Ivory,then we need some position to pop out military,we're defiant so keep 3-tile city placement and a bunch of troops.

 

[viper275]

Good dotmap. One little complaint: the dot that is E-E-E of Karakorum is on a coast tile, you can see it in the fog.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

I would settle in the middle of the Ivories; otherwise that city would have several Desert tiles. And we'd need 2 cities to make sure we controll all of them.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Recon: Change Kakorum to settler.

2) 1870

IT: Kakorum settler > settler

4) 1790: Tashkent founded

6) 1725: Bukhara founded (on ivory). Build's a little tight, but I wanted to preserve ocean access and still control all 4 ivory.

IT: Kakorum settler > settler

Lone settler ready to plant in place to NE. Need to skim some escorts for southern expansion. Didn't make any deals. Otto wouldn't part with Mysticism for a reasonable price. Need to hook up the horses.

 

[Greebley]

Doc, why would you ever want build previous unit off? Usually you want whatever you built last rather than whatever the Mil Adviser thinks you want to build. If you want to build something different, then with "always ask about unit builds" you still get the pop-up every time. Its just set to a much more sensible suggested build.

PS. I think you should all go for a conquest victory.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

Doc, why would you ever want build previous unit off? Usually you want whatever you built last rather than whatever the Mil Adviser thinks you want to build. If you want to build something different, then with "always ask about unit builds" you still get the pop-up every time. Its just set to a much more sensible suggested build.

PS. I think you should all go for a conquest victory.

You're right. I just remember to ocassionally had a city building nothing but the same unit over and over again without notification - but admittedly, I can't even tell if that was in Civ3, or in Civ2 - so I turn of whatever automation possible.

Victory: Conquest or Space. Maybe Domination.

@Team: Important: Do NOT connect a second Ivory. It may get demanded...