Wars

[frank5]

It's my first game at civilization at all so not everything is clear for me first why there is no wars between Ai vs Ai? I mean all they gawe millitary access for each other and when im at war with one nation i somehow end being at war with all nations...its not very funny..and just being more technology advanced let me do not very profitable peaces... so why is it so? Did i something wrong?

 

[Turner]

Oh, the AI do fight each other. But unless you have an embassy with at least one of the warring civs, or have territory near them, you generally don't see it.

As for them all ganging up on you, do it to them first. When the AI declares on you, or you declare on the AI, get the other civs to declare on them with a military alliance as well. Then you'll see the AI fight the AI.

Also, when the AI declares on you, and you get a bunch of allies to jump them, that tends to take a lot of heat off of you... I've had wars that I didn't even need to participate in because the AI was more worried about the other AI than me.

 

[frank5]

The problem is that Ai never agree an alliance against another Ai even if it is polite toward me... Maybe thats just tough luck...

 

[Turner]

You may need to offer them gold or tech to do so. There should be an option "What do you need to complete this deal" or some such. Click on that, and if you have enough resources, they'll tell you what they want. If you don't have enough, you'll get the "They won't accept this deal!" from your advisor.

 

[Bucephalus]

The problem is that Ai never agree an alliance against another Ai even if it is polite toward me... Maybe thats just tough luck...

This might sound obvious, but are you actually at war with civA before asking for an alliance with civB? The AI will not give alliances unless you are.

 

[frank5]

This might sound obvious, but are you actually at war with civA before asking for an alliance with civB? The AI will not give alliances unless you are.

no matter if im at war or im not but my advisor always says: They would never accept this offer(or something like that)...i think i should start a new game instead

 

[Bucephalus]

Sounds like a reputation problem, then; have you been careful to honour your 20-turn deals? If you don't, the AI will not trust you any longer.

 

[frank5]

Sounds like a reputation problem, then; have you been careful to honour your 20-turn deals? If you don't, the AI will not trust you any longer.

i did. i never started wars myself so i couldnt break any deals..

 

[Jokeslayer]

They can be broken in other ways, like if the trade route gets cut (which may not even be your fault)

 

[capnvonbaron]

sometimes civs just don't go to war with other civs because they're too puny. Most of the time, you literally have to give them a ton of money to get them to go into an alliance. Sometimes they just plain won't. Them's the breaks.

What difficulty level are you on, and what do you have AI aggresiveness set to? On lower levels, with AI aggressiveness turned way down, they are much less likely to have conflicts with each other. Also, don't offer gpt for alliances because the AI will seldom take gpt from you if your rep is the tiniest bit damaged. Just offer up techs, or lump sums. Sometimes RoP or a MPP will do it, although those are very salty affairs to be involved in anyways and most people here would advise against them. Post a save of a game, and one of us forum goons will take a crack at opening up a world war for ya

 

[frank5]

sometimes civs just don't go to war with other civs because they're too puny. Most of the time, you literally have to give them a ton of money to get them to go into an alliance. Sometimes they just plain won't. Them's the breaks.

What difficulty level are you on, and what do you have AI aggresiveness set to? On lower levels, with AI aggressiveness turned way down, they are much less likely to have conflicts with each other. Also, don't offer gpt for alliances because the AI will seldom take gpt from you if your rep is the tiniest bit damaged. Just offer up techs, or lump sums. Sometimes RoP or a MPP will do it, although those are very salty affairs to be involved in anyways and most people here would advise against them. Post a save of a game, and one of us forum goons will take a crack at opening up a world war for ya

the difficulty is the lowest and AI aggresiveness is normal. here is my save of game...i would be really grateful if somebody would say what im doing wrong

http://www.2shared.com/file/4626389/e5167860/Alexander_of_the_Greeks_2230_BC.html

 

[TheOverseer714]

Very often, an AI will be involved in a trade or alliance with your target civ and making an alliance will break that deal. This makes getting an alliance difficult. Also, you can't offer gpt if its less than the AI sees you having available. If you have 15 gpt coming in, you can't offer 16 gpt for an alliance.