Desert-Fox
King
With barracks I agree, but with libraries and universities I do not because universities need library presence in city and oxford univ need several universities. So science boost are always nice to have.
What are the most common play mistakes?
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With barracks I agree, but with libraries and universities I do not because universities need library presence in city and oxford univ need several universities. So science boost are always nice to have.
Silbeg
Wise @$$ Loud Mouth
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auto-search? This isn't something I remember seeing... what is that?
Rusty Edge
Deity
Forgetting to delete or gift to a vassal some ancient units in peacetime when I can replace them new ones with more EPs . It causes me to fall behind in power rating, and the maint on surplus units causes my economy to suffer, and my teching to fall behind, too.
thadian
Kami of Awakened Dreamers
does gifting obselete units give you a diplo bonus or something, why do that? to increase their maintenance?
Rusty Edge
Deity
I think so, but not much. Just the existing "your trade dealings have been fair with us".
If I gift a bunch of units to a vassal, I can lose the maint, but my vassal's strength contributes to my power rating, so it's better than disbanding in the short term. Maybe my vassal is a threat for some kind of a victory, and I want to slow his teching, or maybe Mansa is my vassal, and I don't want him making discoveries and dealing them to my enemies.
Of course, throwing a bunch of obsolete units into a war can slow an advance, and sometimes it's in my interest to see my rival in a prolonged war.
thadian
Kami of Awakened Dreamers
i will have to try this and see what happens.
Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for the tip!
TigerBotHesh
Chieftain
Not having a flexible backup plan when the war horns start going off. No plan survives contact with the enemy.
Rusty Edge
Deity
I guess I'm coming at it from a different play style. I keep an eye on power rating , because I dislike being dogpiled.
Perhaps you can improve on the concept/technique.
Overexpansion is always my achilles heel.
I *always* spam settlers to try to grab as much land as I can before the AI does, and I *know* I should be slower about it but I just panic that if I don't then the AI will and aieee. So I expand like a madman, and before I know it, my science is at 0% for all the maintenance and I'm slamming my head against the wall as my armies start to disband and I'm all, "g-dam it slaves get me my dam courthouses!!" whipping them in panic and gritting my teeth as I try to pull my economy out of a nosedive. Usually I end up in 0% science for like dozens of turns, then I barely start inching myself upwards to 10%, 20% and slowly upwards as my economy recovers. Whew.
On the plus side, once I do have those courthouses whipped and the cities start growing, the overexpansion does pay off because I grabbed so much land. But damn, if an AI chose to attack me while I was at my weakest, I'd be dog meat.
I *always* spam settlers to try to grab as much land as I can before the AI does, and I *know* I should be slower about it but I just panic that if I don't then the AI will and aieee. So I expand like a madman, and before I know it, my science is at 0% for all the maintenance and I'm slamming my head against the wall as my armies start to disband and I'm all, "g-dam it slaves get me my dam courthouses!!" whipping them in panic and gritting my teeth as I try to pull my economy out of a nosedive. Usually I end up in 0% science for like dozens of turns, then I barely start inching myself upwards to 10%, 20% and slowly upwards as my economy recovers. Whew.
On the plus side, once I do have those courthouses whipped and the cities start growing, the overexpansion does pay off because I grabbed so much land. But damn, if an AI chose to attack me while I was at my weakest, I'd be dog meat.
Red Dwarf Devil
Little Green Man
Samy
I also tended to over expand with Cities, although now I more prefer to try to get bottleneck areas for good Cities and then do not open borders and backfill other sites when economy is in good order.
Works well at times but it all hinges on the map.
I also tended to over expand with Cities, although now I more prefer to try to get bottleneck areas for good Cities and then do not open borders and backfill other sites when economy is in good order.
Works well at times but it all hinges on the map.
Yeah, blocking isthmuses with closed borders and eventually backfilling is awesome. I love doing that. Whenever I play on the Earth map, I always beeline settlers to where Istanbul and Suez and Caucasus are. You can control the migration routes a lot with just three cities on the Earth map. Just wish there wasn't such a damn good route into Europe through Russia.
Stoney the I
Prince
i thought troops on AI borders triggered the AI into building more troops?
think i read that somewhere
thats a common one for me too
my major killer is still overexpansion before inventing writing though.
even now im playing decent diff levels, i still step into this &^%$#@! sometimes.
Astaldo711
Warlord
Yep! That's me!
Actually, mine is more of oversight. I once captured a barbarian city a distance from my capital and promptly forgot about it. When I was checking the map out later, there were several barbarian ships around it, blocking trade. The town and ceased growing and was stagnant. I was about to mount a rescur when the barb's captured it again.
Supr49er
2011 Thunderfall Cup
I use this "bait and switch" tactic on occasion.
If I want to fight without declaring war, and I have a stockpile of
, I don't upgrade my units until the AI declares war.
I use this "bait and switch" tactic on occasion.
If I want to fight without declaring war, and I have a stockpile of
Nice. I tend not to upgrade so that I can get the slight cost discount for skipping an era--I suppose that that makes me look juicy.
As to the cost discount, here's an example.
Musket to Rifle 200 gold
Rife to Infantry 200 gold
Musket to Infantry 380 Gold
Archer to Infantry 560 gold
Finding the local religion leader so you can either 1. make friends join his religion and make lots of allies. Or 2. quickly destroy the civilization and take his religion for your own and work for a GP to put up a shrine $$$$
thadian
Kami of Awakened Dreamers
you can also promote something like macemen to city attack then upgrade to musketmen which don't get it.
Another i made recently was setting to "auto-promote units" NEVER AGAIN i thought it meant auto-upgrade (thought it would be helpful late game)
NEVER enable that crap - its a big play mistake
Another i made recently was setting to "auto-promote units" NEVER AGAIN i thought it meant auto-upgrade (thought it would be helpful late game)
NEVER enable that crap - its a big play mistake
Supr49er
2011 Thunderfall Cup
Good strategy, but you meant upgrade to Riflemen.
