What Civs Would You Like Added for Civ 4?

[Smellincoffee]

Israel, Sioux, and Austria. (I'd rather see the Cherokee than the Sioux-- the Cherokee were an asset of the Confederacy in the west. Stand Watie was the last Confederate general to surrender.)


I'd also like to see the Holy Roman Empire.

(Hey, they included Sumer...)

 

[Tom|420]

I am Canadian.

I have once thought of what the Canada would be like as a civilization in the game, and franctly I didn't find anything of interest that is not already well represented by the Americans. However I fell that Xavier Von Erck had no right to express his opinion this way. It is quite insulting, not only for the fact that he tells his opinion in a degrading way for Canadians, but also because it is obvious that he has no idea of the Canadian history and culture.

You may be proud of your so powerful F15/16/18 series, but there is something I am proud of: I live in a Nation which was, throughout history, a peaceful one.

 

[Longasc]

There are already more Civs than I can play. Hell, even with several different traits, there are soon no more new combinations. But well - I hardly played any Civ of vanilla Civ3 up to now, really.

Okay, lets make some militaristic/expansionist Civs, and then... replace city names, leader head... or so. Great - one more Civ...


Cannot think of more Civs needed right now, or that there is one that I am missing.

I would rather FIX AND CHANGE THAT DAMN ******* CORRUPTION CONCEPT.

 

[Blasphemous]

Longasc, without corruption the game would simply be about expansion... Corruption puts a lid on it, and I felt this quite powerfully when the top half of my continent was still building infrastructure hundreds of years after I had conquered it.

 

[greenie]

Originally posted by Cuivienen


Must make Great Wonder "The Lord of the Rings"... ... ...


Anyway, frankly, Australia, New Zealand and Canada simply aren't unique enough to be separate civilizations. Sure, they have their own (brief) histories, but they are still today "satellites" of the UK. Australia, Canada and New Zealand would have to do something defining before they merit being in Civ4.

Womens Sufferage and splitting the atom not good enough for NZ?

 

[Longasc]

Shadowflame, you are absolutely right! But even with Police Stations, Courtyards, now even the specialists and even in peace times with Democracy there are too many cities that have dozens of shields wasted and 1 Shield Production. Max Corruption, now 90%. :-(

Courtyards are often not worth their maintenance, you cannot build anything in a reasonable timeframe in border cities - whip them or pay them, otherwise you will wait for ages.

Now I agree that corruption makes sense - but I think if your most outlying cities, think of colonies far away, islands e.g,, are always 90% no matter what you build and invest -> I would be content if they would have around 75% corruption "only" after applying all necessary measures to reduce corruption.

Corruption is the game concept that is necessary, I agree, but it is the one I hate the most.

There are so many different exploits on city placements, bugs... since the beginning.

Have not tested at all right now if corruption is now really much better than before, (bet patch C3C), I hope CIV4 will find a better solution to stop mass expansion to become the best way to play civ...

 

[trumpeteer]

I want Poland, for no other reason than to invade Russia and Germany simultaneously...

 

[Vraslosken]

I think that Norway, the richest country in the world, should be included. Also the most introvert.(I don't know if that is a word, but i think i've heard it in the right context somewhere).

 

[MrBenn]

I think we should have the Scots as a new civ (but im biased <------------) or do they come under the Celts? :/

We could have Television as our wonder, lol. Makes all unhappy citizens content

 

[Longasc]

Great Idea, MrBenn.

Civilization IV might also be added as a Wonder. It will make 5 people happy in every city but increase corruption in all border cities to 90%. SCNR...

 

[sealman]

Of the ones in the poll, I would choose Austria/Hungary but than again, Austria is a bonus civ in Conquests and I can just tweak it. So that would make my vote (again of the ones listed) Ethiopia.

On a side note, I feel that Poland/Lithuania should also be included.

 

[Dawood]

Two or three afrian civs, and two or three american ones. Also four or five asians one. Europe and the middle east is already overcrowded.

 

[mintyfreshdeath]

Hahaha.. Television as a wonder: makes 3 unhappy citizens content, reduces science output in the city by 25% and causes culture to contract by a rate unprecedented.

Unless you did a palace prebuild.

 

[casual_moose]

i also really like the idea of being able to create civs especially if you could create UU's for them. Then you could make fantasy civs, now THAT would be cool! hehe the worshipers of Casual_moose gather!

i voted inuit and Sioux because it might be fun to play inuit

 

[Tom|420]

I wonder how the Inuits would be implemented. To my knowledge they were fishers and peacefull. Would be fun to play them though

 

[Apricorn]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.


Wrong Poland. They are refering to medieval Poland which controlled a large part of Eastern Europe during the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries.

I think you mean PRUSSIA (a German speaking state) which covered an area of land where East Germany and Poland is today. Prussia went on to unite with the other Germanic states to become Deutschland (Germany) during the 19th Century. Afterthe first world war some of Prussia was taken from Germany and given to the Poles and a lot more of it during after the second world war.

 

[toh6wy]

My top priority is at least two more African civs, which is *way* under-represented - one from Western Africa (either Mali, Ghana, or Songhai) and one from Eastern Africa (either Ethiopia/Abyssinia or Nubia) preferably. After that, I'd like to see some SE Asian civ (Khmer, possibly?), a civ from Australia, New Zealand, or that general area (Polynesia, Maori, Indonesia, are possibilities), and another N. American civ (Sioux, Apache, maybe even Inuit). Very low on my list of priorities (but would still be cool nonetheless) would be the inclusion of an E. European civ to fill the gap between Russia and Germany - Poland is the best bet for this.

 

[Miluss]

Originally posted by Apricorn


I think you mean PRUSSIA (a German speaking state) which covered an area of land where East Germany and Poland is today. Prussia went on to unite with the other Germanic states to become Deutschland (Germany) during the 19th Century. Afterthe first world war some of Prussia was taken from Germany and given to the Poles and a lot more of it during after the second world war.

* Big off-topic*

You are wrong.

Shortly, Poland was founded 966 AD and soon covered more less the area which it is now. After feudalism' partition between different members of royal family it reunited again in 14th century and after union with Lithuania, defeating Teutonic knights in 1410 and winning 13-years war in 1466 stretched from Baltic to Black Sea and from Silesia to Smolensk being the largest country in Europe (approx. 1 mln sq.km). After the golden age in 16 century almost whole 17 century were wars, which resulted in weakening the state and its partition in 18 century.

One of parting powers was Prussia, but it emerged from the area conquered previously by Teutonic knights (who slaughtered the original Prussians) and after demise of Teutonic order i was Poland's dependent territory. Prussia was located in the area called "East Prussia" and the later Prussia (being actually Brandenburgia) took the name for whole country from this small part. Anyway, to get into the territorial shape when it united German lands into Kaiserland, Prussia had to win some wars with Austria for Silesia and (IIRC) never conquered Saxony, so actually the territory of Prussia was a bit different.

So Prussia was NOT where East Germany and Poland is today (anyway, some of the "given" territory was fought out by local militia), and "medieval Poland" really existed.

Somebody said here it was whipping boy for Germany and Russia/Soviet Union. I disagree; there was no war between Poland and Germany for over 650 years and Poland fought well against Germans, as for Russia/SU Poles were the only foreign nation to rule Moscow (true, for 2 years) and Poland stopped the Soviet Army heading in 1920 to install communism in all over Europe.

If you want to know more about Poland please refer to Norman Davies' God's Playground: A History of Poland

 

[Acalanthis]

Israel would be my first choice because of the long and interesting history which is so well documented. I liked the idea of the Sioux as well.

 

[Ville]

Sioux, Israel, Khmer, Austria (already included), Assyria, Polynesia, Nubia, Songhay, Indonesia