what does mean singing together the KUMBAYA?

[marioflag]

In one of CIV4 dialog one of the leaders i don't remember said "we can sing together the KUMBAYA" what does it mean?I have heard of this KUMBAYA also in a dialog of GC2.So to what it's referred?

 

[fuhrer_Wilson]

isnt is the song " kumbaya my lord" the hymm

 

[Cloud Tiamat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbaya

 

[Oldbus]

isnt is the song " kumbaya my lord" the hymm

Yep. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbaya (Wikipedia) for words etc. Basically, it has acquired a reputation with some folks for being a fairly cheesy scout camp etc song.

The idea that a leader would sit down and discuss peace by singing Kumbaya with you is meant to be a joke (eg see also Al Gore's mugshot on the 'Internet' icon)

 

[BeefontheBone]

... and that godawful salad joke...

 

[White Elk]

Basically, it has acquired a reputation with some folks for being a fairly cheesy scout camp etc song.

Kumbaya isn't cheesy.. It's sacred.

 

[cthom]

Kumbaya isn't cheesy.. It's sacred.

i can still smell the cheese from a distance of 40 years

 

[White Elk]

And I still remember the good feelings it invoked in me while signing it with friends at fireside.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

Kumbaya is kind of like a singing version of a big group hug. It is a feel-good warm fuzzy slightly wimpy male-bonding ritual.

It was put into the game to be funny. This would be the first time I have ever heard anyone call it 'sacred'.

 

[MrPaladin]

Kumbaya is also a little improvised... so long as you fit the tune the chorus can be made up by anyone in the cirle around the campfire...

There are a few things in the game that are ment to be comical...

 

[White Elk]

I'd say it's less like a group hug and more like a group prayer. And it is definatly not a male specific activity. But I do agree that it's a feel good warm-fuzzy kind-of song.

Many generations of youth have sung that song as a closure to the nights activities. My Grandfather shared it with my father and his YMCA group. Then my father shared it with me and my Webelos pack. And when it came time to share the song with my Neice and Nephew.. the song had taken on a sacredness to me. Sacred not in a spiritual sense, but in a traditional sense. In the passing along of a reverant tradition. But the origins of the song were indeed of a spiritual nature.

Hehe.. I'd even call the Snipe Hunt and the Grey Squirrel Dance sacred to the cultures of youth camping groups.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

I'd say it's less like a group hug and more like a group prayer. And it is definatly not a male specific activity. But I do agree that it's a feel good warm-fuzzy kind-of song.

Many generations of youth have sung that song as a closure to the nights activities. My Grandfather shared it with my father and his YMCA group. Then my father shared it with me and my Webelos pack. And when it came time to share the song with my Neice and Nephew.. the song had taken on a sacredness to me. Sacred not in a spiritual sense, but in a traditional sense. In the passing along of a reverant tradition. But the origins of the song were indeed of a spiritual nature.

Hehe.. I'd even call the Snipe Hunt and the Grey Squirrel Dance sacred to the cultures of youth camping groups.

I'm an Eagle Scout and used to sing it too. Even then it was one of my least favorite campfire songs as it always struck me as just a bit...odd.

Big fun with the Snipe Hunt though!

 

[5cats]

Even then it was one of my least favorite campfire songs as it always struck me as just a bit...odd.

I found it odd too, even as a brain-dead youth (long story, TMI)
It's about accepting the bad with the good as all being God's will, inside God's Plan (with a capital P!) So often we think God only brings good things, kinda like Santa, but really He brings both good & bad things. Mysterious, eh?

Strangely, I've never heard a parody of this song. It has become a parody of itself, Lol!

 

[White Elk]

Actually I happen to agree that the song is a little odd. The modern words never made sense to me. But the tone of the song and it's communal spirit is what endeared me to it.

I think that "Peter Paul and Marys" 1960's version of the song has forever changed it's real meaning. I haven't found any source that authenticates just what the original lyrics were. But I did find one set of lyrics that resemble those that a college professor once shared with me...

btw ~ "Kum ba yah" = "Come by here"

Kum ba yah, my Lord, Kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my Lord, Kum ba yah!
Kum ba yah, my Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh Lord! Kum ba yah!

Hear me crying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Hear me crying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Hear me crying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh Lord! Kum ba yah!

Hear me singing, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Hear me singing, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Hear me singing, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh Lord! Kum ba yah!

Hear me praying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Hear me praying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Hear me praying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh Lord! Kum ba yah!

Oh I need you, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh I need you, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh I need you, Lord, Kum ba yah!
Oh Lord! Kum ba yah!

 

[5cats]

Oh for sure the idea behind the song is wonderful!
It's just been overused, or abused, so much that the origional spirit of the song's been lost in modern culture.
We are a jaded bunch...

 

[White Elk]

It's funny how the meaning of things change over time. And it's slightly ironic that the term Kumbaya has come to mean peacemaking (among other things). If leaders from disagreeing nations were to really get together and Kumbaya.. they'd be communaly humbling themeselves before a greater power; then asking that greater power to help them with their diplomacy. The world would be a very differant place if our leaders got together and Kumbaya'd frequently.

 

[cthom]

The world would be a very differant place if our leaders got together and Kumbaya'd frequently.

you know, i can definitely see Blair doing that!

 

[Panda]

The world would be a very differant place if our leaders got together and Kumbaya'd frequently.

Sure. Why don't you go down to Iran and try that there?

 

[BasketCase]

Kumbaya is kind of like a singing version of a big group hug. It is a feel-good warm fuzzy slightly wimpy male-bonding ritual.

Dood....PLEASE don't post anything like that again. That was really creepy.

 

[Tae]

Reminds me of Airplane!