What is the function of Kilwa Kisiwani?

[myclan]

Just can not understand the meaning of the instruction. Besides Pyramid, Colosseum and Petra with lots of dersert hill. Any other wonders do you think is worth pursuing?

 

[TomKQT]

You mean this? When you are the Suzerain of a City-State this city receives a +15% boost to the yield provided by that City-State. If you are the Suzerain to 2 or more City-States of that type an additional +15% boost is given to all your cities.
I would say that it works like this:
If you build this wonder in a city and you are suzerain of a city state that gives for example +8 gold to your commercial hubs, then the city with Kilwa Kisiwani gets not just +8, but +9.2 gold (115 % of 8). If you are the suzerain of two or more trade city states (gold-giving), then the city with Kilwa Kisiwani gets +30 % and all other cities get +15 % (of course only all citites that are relevant - which means only citites with a commercial hub).

And I would guess that the effects stack, so if you are suzerain of multiple types of city states and you have all the districts, then you get the bonus for all the yields.

 

[Victoria]

Casa de Contratación if you manage to get off continent a lot is a nice % spread but not science. Not too expensive and 3 governor promotions allowing you to get to a nice top tier one like Reyna purchasing districts.

Kilwa is the killer is there are enough CS alive and you can hold onto them, I thought the boost was to all your cities. This is pretty awesome.

 

[bbbt]

I think it's just a straight boost to the overall city yield, not just the boost from the city state. I.e. if you are suzerain of two cultural city states all your cities get +15% of their total cultural output (and the one with it gets +30%). It's been insanely strong in my playthroughs so far.

 

[Disgustipated]

Any other wonders do you think is worth pursuing?

The ole' standbys of Potala Palace, Forbidden Palace, and Big Ben are always worth pursuing.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

The ole' standbys of Potala Palace, Forbidden Palace, and Big Ben are always worth pursuing.

Those and Colosseum and Ruhr

 

[Victoria]

I think it's just a straight boost to the overall city yield, not just the boost from the city state. I.e. if you are suzerain of two cultural city states all your cities get +15% of their total cultural output (and the one with it gets +30%). It's been insanely strong in my playthroughs so far.

This is very true

The ole' standbys of Potala Palace, Forbidden Palace, and Big Ben are always worth pursuing.

Potala? Green is not always tasty. Forbidden is a nice to have but often by that time you have enough slots for what you need as opposed to what you want.

The game is much more than picking a crowded map and facesmashing into hapless AI.

oh

 

[Giskler]

Temple of Artemis can be extremely powerful with the right map.

 

[Pietato]

Temple of Artemis can be extremely powerful with the right map.

Yep. Insanely good at high levels if you have a city crowded with pastures and camps.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Yep. Insanely good at high levels if you have a city crowded with pastures and camps.

And Makewaps.

 

[RealHuhn]

I like Forbidden Palace, Big Ben, Great Zimbabwe and Casa de Contratacion. If I can get it a little later, Colossus for the extra trade route and Mausoleum of Halikarnassos for the +1 extra use of great engineers are also quite nice.
I've also noticed that the AI hardly builds Angkor Wat. +1 pop in all cities is pretty good if you can get it late for like 15 turns.

And of course on sea maps, the wonder which lets you build 2 ships for 1 in every coastal city. What's it called again? Anyways, it's awesome.

I'd love to beeline some city states wonders but unfortunately, CS system is broken in 80% of games.

 

[Disgustipated]

I rarely bother with Casa as my cities tend to be on the same continent. Even my current game with a ton of cities, every single city is on the same continent.

 

[myclan]

The ole' standbys of Potala Palace, Forbidden Palace, and Big Ben are always worth pursuing.

Potala Palace is just too expensive and consume a hill if compared to other two I think.

Casa de Contratación if you manage to get off continent a lot is a nice % spread but not science. Not too expensive and 3 governor promotions allowing you to get to a nice top tier one like Reyna purchasing districts.

Kilwa is the killer is there are enough CS alive and you can hold onto them, I thought the boost was to all your cities. This is pretty awesome.

But Casa de Contratación need a governer to be effective so at most the number of your governer there but not all the cities off continent, still that wothy?

I think it's just a straight boost to the overall city yield, not just the boost from the city state. I.e. if you are suzerain of two cultural city states all your cities get +15% of their total cultural output (and the one with it gets +30%). It's been insanely strong in my playthroughs so far.

Yes, insanly strong when I discovered that it provides +15% of the total yeild. But how about industrial or militaristic CS?

 

[iammaxhailme]

This is very true

Potala? Green is not always tasty. Forbidden is a nice to have but often by that time you have enough slots for what you need as opposed to what you want.

oh

Economic/Green cards got a lot better in R&F, imo

 

[Sostratus]

When you are the Suzerain of a City-State this city receives a +15% boost to the yield provided by that City-State. If you are the Suzerain to 2 or more City-States of that type an additional +15% boost is given to all your cities.

Just to clarify, is "the yield provided by that CS" referring to just the +4/+8 envoy bonuses, the CS's intrinsic yield output (how much they make for themselves,) or is it supposed to be a 15% modifier on the actual building city's yield?

15% more CS bonus
15% of the CS' yield
15% more yield of that type

My initial reading made me think it would be the last one, but I knew it wasn't functioning like that in game. I mean, the seond part stating "15% boost to all your cities" makes me think that, but it would be OP. And 15% of 8 is only 1.2. So, maybe one of you fanatics can clarify for me!

Potala? Green is not always tasty. Forbidden is a nice to have but often by that time you have enough slots for what you need as opposed to what you want.

I find that I'm always wanting to run the influence card and a spy card (cryptography/police state) and an alliance card, but only have one slot until democracy. It's nice to be able to knock two of the three depending on my needs- Wisselbank and Arsenal of Democracy are extremely strong. What green cards do you usually take, Victoria?

 

[Thormodr]

Temple of Artemis can be extremely powerful with the right map.

Really suits with Scotland. I had 5 plantations/camps within the 4 tile radius. An ecstatic Scotland is a very powerful Scotland.

 

[Bad Wolf]

Colloseum is probably my favourite wonder just because I always seem to have problems with amenities. When I manage to get Colloseum my amenity problems are basically solved until the modern age.

 

[TomKQT]

Just to clarify, is "the yield provided by that CS" referring to just the +4/+8 envoy bonuses, the CS's intrinsic yield output (how much they make for themselves,) or is it supposed to be a 15% modifier on the actual building city's yield?

15% more CS bonus
15% of the CS' yield
15% more yield of that type

My initial reading made me think it would be the last one, but I knew it wasn't functioning like that in game. I mean, the seond part stating "15% boost to all your cities" makes me think that, but it would be OP. And 15% of 8 is only 1.2. So, maybe one of you fanatics can clarify for me!

In fact the first part "When you are the Suzerain of a City-State this city receives a +15% boost to the yield provided by that City-State." sounds more like if the city state was getting a +15 % bonus to its own yields. Which would be absolutely no benefit to you as a player Some of the wordings in this game are quite weird.

 

[Peserwin]

Temple of Artemis is a wonder I always try to build. The food enables me to work only production tiles and with the free housing I can create a big city in no time. Amenities are also nice to have.

I never build Kilwa as most CS are exterminated at that time, but maybe it's fun to start a liberation campaign and make that wonder worth my while.

 

[Giskler]

Really suits with Scotland. I had 5 plantations/camps within the 4 tile radius. An ecstatic Scotland is a very powerful Scotland.

Yea, I had 7 with my latest Scotland game. Pretty powerful boost early on!