What new Civs ? (no nationalism ?)

What new civs should be in (multiple choices) ?

  • Mali/Songhai

    Votes: 77 35.8%
  • Abyssinia/Ethiopia

    Votes: 101 47.0%
  • Kongo

    Votes: 35 16.3%
  • Khmer

    Votes: 65 30.2%
  • Malay (Indonesia/Malaysia/Philippines)

    Votes: 69 32.1%
  • Tibet

    Votes: 48 22.3%
  • Thais

    Votes: 39 18.1%
  • Huns

    Votes: 79 36.7%
  • Poland

    Votes: 79 36.7%
  • Hungary

    Votes: 54 25.1%
  • Polynesia

    Votes: 67 31.2%
  • Hebrews

    Votes: 109 50.7%
  • Assyrians

    Votes: 68 31.6%
  • Sioux/Comanches

    Votes: 69 32.1%
  • Cherokees

    Votes: 58 27.0%
  • Australia

    Votes: 49 22.8%
  • Cuba

    Votes: 25 11.6%
  • Brazil

    Votes: 51 23.7%
  • Canada

    Votes: 45 20.9%
  • Atlantide (j/k) = I prefer to develop my own civ, I don't care about historical ones.

    Votes: 21 9.8%

  • Total voters
    215
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korossyl said:
Because I am talking about cultural similarity. England and America have completely, totally differant and seperate cultures. Don't get me wrong; I am definately aware that the Portugese and Spanish are two differant nations, and I respect them for that. I am a great proponent of national individualism! (1) However, Spain and Portugal, just as Austria and Germany, have very similar cultures.

I believe, based on the entire Civilization series, that what civs are included should be based on (a) cultural uniqueness, and (b) relevance.

Now, slightly off-topic...
In response to the many suggestions of expanding African civilizations, or "why add more European civs":
For the latter reason is why I don't think more African civs are needed. African nations such as the Zulu, the Nubians, and the (2) Northern African Moors were really the only civilizations from that region that played a major role in world or regional affairs. In addition, they were all culturally quite unique. Regardless of questions of European imperialism and racism and whatnot, it is a fact that African civilizations had less of an impact on the world than European or Asian civilizations. This is only exacerbated by the fact that up until recently (and even recently), Africa was less nation-based that tribe-based.

(1) I Don't know about Austria and Germany. But I do know about Spain and Portugal!!!

(2) weren't they the Arabs??? (being irronic)
(2) cont. In Africa if you summarize, you have:
- Zulus
- Carthage
- Egipt
- Nubians
- and if you considered or not, the berberian

In modern world

I personally add:
- Marrocos
- South Africa
and
- Ethiopia
 
Since Civ4 will apparently include some new civs (from what civrules gathered in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=108315), I think this thread could be useful for Firaxians, maybe not for historical reasons but for marketing reasons at least.

This is a simple poll but a few people already voted so some preferences like Abyssinia/Ethiopia and Hebrews might be of statistical value.

And for those who haven't voted yet, please de so so that we gather most infos in one single poll.

On the 29th of December :

- Ethiopia : 92
- Hebrews : 92

Followed by Mali/Songhai, Huns, Sioux, Malays, Poland and Polynesia in the 60-odd-vote category.

Which is nice is that except for Hebrews and Poland, these are civs in "new" areas.

Of course if there are 64 I guess all of them could be included...
 
Maybe the shuld include grafics, units, civilopedia entryes for many civs so that in the editor you could add or remove the ones you want.
 
Yes, we know there will be new civilizations in Civ4, from here. But it's still too early, and they have not yet mentioned who will be in.

I'm willing to bet that the Hebrews will be in for sure, as world religion is also in the game.


Actually, if you had a chance to look at the January issue of PC Gamer UK, you would see that there is a David star in one of the icons at the top of the screenshot.
 
You have also bumped an eight year old topic that came out before Civilization IV.

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