What should be our first unit?

[peter grimes]

Having settlers sent out is critical though, we dont want to be outexpanded by the other players.

I've been thinking... I don't think anyone can out-expand us in a meaningful way at this point. It's safe to assume we all got comparable starting positions. The only ones that can grow faster than us are Iroquois and Celts. But they can't build units faster than us, so we don't have to worry about a swarm of their settlers any time soon. The Persians are industrious. These are the ones I'd worry about. But, they won't be able to set up a settler factory sooner than us, so we don't have to worry on that point.

Please think those lines through, and tell me if you think I screwed it up; but most likely they are all having the exact same discussions. We won't be out-expanded.

A reminder of Chamnix' evalutaion of option #2:

but in #2 we get the second settler 3 turns earlier [than second option1 settler] and we have more food in the bin so each additional settler will be 3 (or more!) turns earlier.

 

[Chamnix]

Actually, I made some changes since then You should look at post #20 in this thread instead of post #18 - the difference is not as great as I had originally thought, but I think nearly everyone agrees now that the next unit will be a warrior or curragh.

Incidentally, have we grown to size 2 yet? Please keep in mind that the schedule I prepared does occasionally require rearranging citizens.

The interesting part about the Iroquios and Celts is that they also start with pottery. I would expect them to build a granary in their capitals fairly quickly. Our second and probably third settlers are likely to come before theirs while they build the granary, but once it is built, their growth could be truly explosive.

 

[peter grimes]

Thanks for that. I still prefer curragh. Glad you mentioned that about the granaries. When I get home tonight I'll do some projections to see what span of turns we might expect them to have granaries (talk about specualtive!). Imagine the debates they must be having about that.

In a way, I wish we didn't know which civlizations we are playing against. Takes some of the surprise out of it.

 

[fe3333au]

We will expand to population 2 in 2 turns ... refer to Looking Glass thread as I try to keep updated ...

We are also producing a second Warrior in 3 turns

and TNT had their city population expanded to 2 (this turn)