What should we research next?

[donsig]

We'll have currency in 8 turns. Writing is next in our queue but that can be changed, especially if we can get it from one of the other teams.

Here is the current science advisor screen:



BTW, the advisor also says we are a backward people.

 

[donsig]

We will have currency next turn. The Galls have offered to give us mysticism in return for math.

Does anyone on this team care what we research next?

 

[Provolution]

horseback riding, no question, we need to counter their cavalry and sustain infantry superiority.

 

[donsig]

Here's the scirnce advisor screen (science at 80%, lux and tax at 10% each):



Haven't heard back from the Greeks yet. Should we research construction or polytheism? Literature or map making?

 

[Provolution]

I think we should research construction. both for trade and for gambing for a GL.

 

[Gunner]

What government are we going to adopt? Republic or Monarchy. I'm just wondering if we have a plan for this. I usually try to get to one of the two pretty quickly. But what do I know?

 

[donsig]

What government are we going to adopt? Republic or Monarchy. I'm just wondering if we have a plan for this. I usually try to get to one of the two pretty quickly. But what do I know?

Since we're locked in a war with Iroqi I think monarchy is the way we must go. We've been trying to set up a long term tech trading deal with the Greeks where each team researches a different branch of the the tech tree and trades back and forth. This seems the best way of utilizing our scientific trait to overxome the agricultural traits of the Galls and Iroqi. My guess is the other three teams are shooting for the republic (since everyone except us seems to know the prerequisites for that tech). So I doubt the Galls will want to research monarchy. Still, we can research construction and trade it for polytheism and some other cheap techs, then research monarchy ourselves.

 

[Theoden]

I think we should switch to republc rather than monarchy. Monarchy is good if we are gonna stay at war the rest of the game, but if the Iroqi war lasts that long then we will be doing badly anyway. Monarchy also forces us to stay in the Iroqi war as it is a truly bad government when at peace. If we want to avoid the Iroq gaining a tech advantage, then we surely need republic. It is especially needed to continue discovering enough techs to trade for the greek ones. Another reason is that we will have to switch to it sooner or later and another 7-9 turns of anarchy will be very damaging to our empire.

 

[donsig]

Research turned off till we complete the construction trade. The next thing we research will be in the middle ages.

 

[BCLG100]

are we going to research something from the middle ages or monachy?

 

[donsig]

are we going to research something from the middle ages or monachy?

That's a very good question. When the construction trade is complete we'll have republic. I'd say if we can secure a peace treaty with the Iroqi then we skip monarchy, switch to a republic and research a middle ages tech. If the Iroqi want to continue the war then it may be desirable to research monarchy so we can use that form of government till we convinve the Iroqi to make peace (or conquer them). If the Greeks will give us polytheism we will be able to see how fast we can research monarchy and that will help us to make the decision.

 

[BCLG100]

I think that even if the war continues we should ignore monachy for the time being, Republic is still an adequate war time tech as this war shouldnt be going on for too much longer, so the time wasted researching it and in anarchy would be too great. As we are the persians does that mean we still recieve our free tech? also is that generally monotheism? (really wish i could find my civ disc would help a lot) , if so are we going to go for theology or feudalism. Myself, i prefer going for feudalism as i think Sun Tzu is one of the best wonders in the game and therefore think that this should be an objective for us, especially seeing how we know we will have to rid the continent of the Iroqi. Also the pikemen will give us a valuable defense to the mounted warrior if the Iroqi choose not to stay at peace.

 

[Gunner]

I agree with the skipping of Monarchy. Feudalism would help us more with the war.

 

[donsig]

I agree with the skipping of Monarchy. Feudalism would help us more with the war.

We already have feudalism - it was our free tech upon entering the middle ages.

I left research off for another turn. We could use the gold we gain to upgrade some spearmen to pikes. Already upgraded one, the cost was 30g. The real reason for leaving research off was to wait and see what free tech the Greeks get. No point in wasting research on something we can trade for next turn.

No one seems to like monarchy (which we could research in about 14 turns). I can't see switching to republic in the middle of a war. By the way, the Iroqi do not have republic. If they do not want peace, do we stay with despotism?

Leaving aside the question of government and assuming the war continues, do we shoot for military tradition (gaining gunpowder along the way) or do we go with chivalry and try to use knights against the Iroqi?

 

[BCLG100]

I think we need time to build infrastructure etc, we should take the military tradition line, then use our cavalry to rampage through the iroqi, even if we do get chivalry we are not going to be able to produce knights at a high enough rate for awhile for them to make much of an impact, also if we take the military tradition route we will get cannons as well.

 

[greekguy]

We should try to get to knights as quickly as possible. Knights templar could help as well in the Iroqi war. i think we should switch to republic, now matter if the Iroqi sign peace or not.

 

[BCLG100]

Actually just noticed that stack of MW's in the west, may be worth holding off switching to republic till we have seen what has happened with them. we should upgrade the spearment in the cities nearest them pronto.

 

[TimBentley]

The Greeks got monotheism free. I think one of us should research chivalry (knights' speed would be nice to deal with MWs) and the other should research engineering (which costs about 120g more).

 

[donsig]

The Greeks got monotheism free. I think one of us should research chivalry (knights' speed would be nice to deal with MWs) and the other should research engineering (which costs about 120g more).

This is good news. Where did it come from? Guess I'd better take a look at the Greek communication thread.

The Greeks made hints about war with the Galls so they may also be interested in knights. If we research a tech that can be finished sooner than the one the Greeks research I think we should leave research off for a turn or two so we can gather gold to upgrade our spearmen.

 

[donsig]

We can set research at 90% (with a 1 gpt deficit)and get Chivalry in 17 turns, engineering in 19 or theology in 21.

We can set research at 80% (with a 6 gpt surplus) and get chivalry in 19 turns, engineering in 22 or theology in 24.