What will be the 7th first look?

[DeutschDachs]

A ship unique is inevitable. It's Phoenicia. Ships are their thing.

Probably Trireme.

If each Phoenician Trireme had a one charge ability to found a city on another continent that would be awesome

 

[Deggial]

I am wondering about the Ottoman UA/UU.
We learned from the leak (the ship's picture) and the live stream ("a currently not announced civ wich benefits from the pillaging buff") that it will be pillaging related or have a piracy aspect.

But how will they discriminate these abilities from the already existing civ abilities? Norway has the 'Longboat' as a great early raider, England the 'Sea Dog' that (theoretically?) can capture defeated units.

So, what will be the new twist?

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

I am wondering about the Ottoman UA/UU.
We learned from the leak (the ship's picture) and the live stream ("a currently not announced civ wich benefits from the pillaging buff") that it will be pillaging related or have a piracy aspect.

But how will they discriminate these abilities from the already existing civ abilities? Norway has the 'Longboat' as a great early raider, England the 'Sea Dog' that (theoretically?) can capture defeated units.

So, what will be the new twist?

Ships build in the city with UG (Hayreddin Barbarossa) will get promotions (1 or 2) depending on UG progress in promotion tree. Just a possible option.

 

[AvianBritish]

I am wondering about the Ottoman UA/UU.
We learned from the leak (the ship's picture) and the live stream ("a currently not announced civ wich benefits from the pillaging buff") that it will be pillaging related or have a piracy aspect.

But how will they discriminate these abilities from the already existing civ abilities? Norway has the 'Longboat' as a great early raider, England the 'Sea Dog' that (theoretically?) can capture defeated units.

So, what will be the new twist?

Reading up briefly on xebecs, they just appear to be "small warships" only used in the med rather than a coastal raiders. You could even have a xebec-frigate which is just a small frigate.

Ignoring the pillaging and coastal raiding possibility, I would assume that the Xebec would be much stronger on costal tiles but slightly weaker on ocean tiles, symbolising the use in the Med.

Whilst we are on the topic; if the Xebec goes to Ottomans, I am very sure we will see the Janissari go to Suliman. They are already in the game from Poland's scenario which is why they are not part of the announcement numbers.

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

Whilst we are on the topic; if the Xebec goes to Ottomans, I am very sure we will see the Janissari go to Suliman. They are already in the game from Poland's scenario which is why they are not part of the announcement numbers.

There is another possibility if Ottomans will get 2 UU's (doubt it), Xebec goes to UG which is tied to Suleiman and Jannisary goes to Ottomans.

 

[ezysquire]

Ottoman foot rest clue for sure. Game. Set. And. Match.

 

[mondetactica]

Well Phoenicia should be drowning in trade routes tbh..

My favorite theory goes something like this (Give and take):

Dido LUA: Queen of the Mediterranean Founding cities provides one free trade route. May only settle next to coast/lake.

Phoenicia Civ UA Monopolies: Settling generates a unique luxury resource nearby (Purple Dye, Cedar, or Tin). Trade routes generate bonus science and diplomatic favor (possibly per unique luxury).

UD Cothon: City Center replacement. Allows harbor buildings to be constructed in City Center. May not build Harbor districts. Build Harbor buildings in half the time.

UU Trireme: Replaces Galley. Has bonus combat strength. May settle a new city once.

Basically a combination of Civ 5's Carthage and Indonesia for the UAs and Spain's UU.

Goal is to get as many luxuries and trade route as you can. Gameplay is all about monopoly and trade.

Agenda: Dislikes civilizations that settle on coast. Likes civilizations that leave coastlines alone.

Standard agenda to promote the sort of gameplay Firaxis would have in mind for Phoenicia

Oh, great... She wants someone to leave coastlines alone and not to settle.

 

[Ziad]

Oh, great... She wants someone to leave coastlines alone and not to settle.

It's a theory but it's historically relevant and essentially similar to Pachacuti's mountain agenda.

Of course one is more likely to get settle coast than mountain, so I would hope they give it more conditions as to not make Dido hate everyone lol

 

[pino2000]

I was reading about Phoenicia and they have so many potential bonuses for them, like how they settled coasts and small islands, harvested their purple dye, made innovations in navigation and ship desingn etc.

But how would they hint towards them during a Sweden livestream? Have the team sitting on a trireme all dressed in purple?

Last time we had a video outlining the majority of the progressions highlighted in RnF after the sixth FL to fill in, and Kristina is the sixth FL of GS. Expectation they don't do that this time since I recollect that video was truly pointless as it discussed all that we definitely knew.

If you don't mind be Phoenicia one week from now, I have been hanging tight for Dido for so long.

 

[nzcamel]

Changed my vote based on where Pete rested his feet during the livestream.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Oh, great... She wants someone to leave coastlines alone and not to settle.

Isn't that Gitarja's agenda already?
Edit: I guess she wants others to avoid islands and small landmasses but that generally means the coast as well.

 

[Zaarin]

Isn't that Gitarja's agenda already?
Edit: I guess she wants others to avoid islands and small landmasses but that generally means the coast as well.

Ironically it would mean that Gitarja would probably like Dido, but Dido would hate Gitarja.

 

[Martinus]

Why do these polls never mention Eleanor explicitly (but mention every other leaked civ)? Let's be honest, the leak has been confirmed 100%, Eleanor is in.

 

[Ersoperso]

Why do these polls never mention Eleanor explicitly (but mention every other leaked civ)? Let's be honest, the leak has been confirmed 100%, Eleanor is in.

Yep i know it confirmed, i don't know why i don't metion Eleanor. I think uniqe governor will be Piri Reis!

 

[Karmah]

Voting Ottomans

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God I feel dumb today ,browsing this thread and not realizing what's so obviously pointing at ottomans in the picture of a guy with a laptop ...

 

[Deggial]

By the way ... a forum with English native speakers (or at least extraordinary educated members) was needed to solve this riddle.

Because in German, an "Ottomane" refers to something like this:

Or this:

I had to educate myself that the English "ottoman" means a footstool in contrast to a sofa with rounded arm rests (that sometimes only cover halve the couch). I didn't know this before or even thought about the possibility of a "false friend".

I am not sure this unsolicited information is of interest for any forum member.
I found it fascinating, though ...
(And it passes the time until the hint. )

 

[SammyKhalifa]

By the way ... a forum with English native speakers (or at least extraordinary educated members) was needed to solve this riddle.

Because in German, an "Ottomane" refers to something like this:

Or this:

I had to educate myself that the English "ottoman" means a footstool in contrast to a sofa with rounded arm rests (that sometimes only cover halve the couch). I didn't know this before or even thought about the possibility of a "false friend".

I am not sure this unsolicited information is of interest for any forum member.
I found it fascinating, though ...
(And it passes the time until the hint. )

I'm in the USA and always thought that's what it meant too. The thing in the video is a footstool.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Well, since everyone in this forum spoke about an ottoman as a footstool, I considered it was its meaning in english. But I'm French and in french an ottoman (ottomane, like a ottoman woman) is the sofa you showed. So I went to the wiktionary (one of my favourite an best translator cheap and available on Internet), it appears that an ottoman (in english) have the meaning for the sofa and for the footstool. So the hint is correct, but only for English-speakers.

 

[Kjimmet]

By the way ... a forum with English native speakers (or at least extraordinary educated members) was needed to solve this riddle.

Because in German, an "Ottomane" refers to something like this:

Or this:

I had to educate myself that the English "ottoman" means a footstool in contrast to a sofa with rounded arm rests (that sometimes only cover halve the couch). I didn't know this before or even thought about the possibility of a "false friend".

I am not sure this unsolicited information is of interest for any forum member.
I found it fascinating, though ...
(And it passes the time until the hint. )

As a Finn I was equally confused where the ottoman came from, as in Finnish "ottomaani" just means the Ottoman (a Turk from Ottoman Empire). No other meanings that I'm aware of.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Well, since everyone in this forum spoke about an ottoman as a footstool, I considered it was its meaning in english. But I'm French and in french an ottoman (ottomane, like a ottoman woman) is the sofa you showed. So I went to the wiktionary (one of my favourite an best translator cheap and available on Internet), it appears that an ottoman (in english) have the meaning for the sofa and for the footstool. So the hint is correct, but only for English-speakers.

I think it IS a footstool as well, but just not a term that I have used. Probably a regional difference.