Where is MONTY? Or which AI do you hate the most?

[Great Oleander]

I (playing as Capria) recently started a game in the classical era (it's the second era) and everything worked fine with the whole hyborem summoning thing (Alexis, Os-gabella, Charadon and Keelyn adopted AV). With starting later, you can outmanouver the problem that only the early religions (RoK, FoL) are spreading across the map.
I know you are missing the first phase, but it is a better way to start if you want Hyborem and Basium in the game.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

Can it be that the AI is not attracted by AV because the Holy Wonder provides science instead of gold ?

I suspect that they don't factor that in to which religion they want to found...

And I'm thinking that Fishing should cost quite a bit less than it currently does. That'd solve a few problems.

 

[wig]

And I'm thinking that Fishing should cost quite a bit less than it currently does. That'd solve a few problems.

I'd argue that Fishing should be returned to a Tier 1 tech. Why should I have to learn to build roads to throw some nets in the water?

More basic than that, though, is the inability to work water tiles at the start of the game. This just seems like piling on, what with the increase in strength the Agriculture Civ already provides to land tiles. Coastal cities should be early growth centers.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

I'd argue that Fishing should be returned to a Tier 1 tech. Why should I have to learn to build roads to throw some nets in the water?

More basic than that, though, is the inability to work water tiles at the start of the game. This just seems like piling on, what with the increase in strength the Agriculture Civ already provides to land tiles. Coastal cities should be early growth centers.

Considering the improvements to food on other terrains, I'd be tempted to suggest this:

The ability to work water tiles either included from the beginning or with Exploration. Then, have the Fishing tech give +1 per water tile so that they're self-sufficient. Then, the lighthouse building with Sailing could add an additional +1 ... Hum, also perhaps replace the Lanun +1 per water tile with +1 or maybe even +1 ... though that'd be of terciary importance.

 

[eerr]

Considering the improvements to food on other terrains, I'd be tempted to suggest this:

The ability to work water tiles either included from the beginning or with Exploration. Then, have the Fishing tech give +1 per water tile so that they're self-sufficient. Then, the lighthouse building with Sailing could add an additional +1 ... Hum, also perhaps replace the Lanun +1 per water tile with +1 or maybe even +1 ... though that'd be of terciary importance.

have fishing give +2 commerce with water instead of food?
fish will still be a viable rescource in the beginning

 

[Rex rgis of Ter]

I was playing a game as Calabim, I founded Order, and Varn Gosam founded FoL. To my amasment, I got him Friendly to me. Eventually, I even got him to take out Svaltfal for Sorcery and Summoning. He actually was a very good ally, even with the religoin difference.

 

[Micky Onimusha]

I hate Cardith Lorda. Not because he's a warmonger or a backstabber (in fact, he's usually quite a reliable friend), but, because everyone else hates him. Seriously, it seems like every game I play every other civ pops up and says "Ya know, if you cut your deals with Cardith we won't get angry at you", and normally I do. If I don't, well, suddenly I'm as much of a blacksheep as he is. The worst thing is, with his expansive empire, he usually has a few resources that I want

As for people who backstab me, it's rather dependant on who I'm playing. I've noticed that Faryl doesn't need much incentive to go to war.

 

[Grey Fox]

Doviello always declares war on the lowest score guy eventually. And if I play Immortal, I usually am the lowest score guy in the early game.

So I'd have to say Doviello, by both leaders.


I usually play Aggressive AI, so anyone can be a war starter. I've even had a game where Einon Logos and Cardith Lorda ganged up on me, and I was Khazad! And I had good relations with them!

And when I played as Calabim, it was ALWAYS Cardith Lorda that started wars with me.

Other than those. Any evil leader seems keen on war.

When I play as Amelanchier and if Faeryl is in the game I always try to get good standings with her. In my latest game I even turned evil for her sake!

<3

 

[KingOfLands]

I hate Varn with a passion. He reminds me a little of Huayna in Vanilla; they always seem to have any tech I happen to want and be totally uninterested in trading it to me. They'll found another religion just so they don't have to convert to mine - twice lately Varn's founded something else as soon as my disciples got near his borders. Add to that the fact that he's usually doing well in the research department and pretty aggressive about where he settles, and he's a complete pain. There's no way to stay on his good side so far as I can tell.

I'm starting to be a little worried about Alexis, too. She seems to be the most committed of the Evil AI's - she and Charadon are the only ones I've seen go ahead and found the Ashen Veil on their own, and Alexis actually researches things like Infernal Pact unprovoked. She's also got a habit of declaring war on me whether or not it makes any sense based on our overall score - I've had her do it when I had three times hers. That's probably based on the power rankings, though, as I tend to run a lean military unless I'm bent on conquest during a particular game.

When I leave things random, though, I don't see much of the Evil leaders other than Auric, Faeryl, and Sheelba, which is getting kind of monotonous. That said, I'm sort of glad Auric's not done yet - he does rather well with what he's got now. I think Sheelba's the second-weakest AI after the Luchurip, so I'm coming to dislike her for quite the opposite reason. I'm developing what I have to admit is an inordinate dislike for the Good civs in general just because I see them so often.

 

[brainpan]

ya, the hippus are the biggest pains, cant keep an improvement around when at war with them.

cardith is my favourite leader to hate on, everyone one always hates him cause of his massive borders, so i like to join in on the hate anytime anyone asks me to declare on him or cancel such and such treaty.

But in mp vs AI, I assume you still hate Mogroth the most?

I agree Hippus are a monsterous pain. It sure is fun to play as Hippus and become the pain, though.

 

[brainpan]

Every game I have played the Svartlafar have declared war on me

Yeppers. She ran across the whole damn continent, past two other civs, to come harrass me last game. Fortunately I was prepared for her wanton mayhem and had a forward strike force near her civ that was able to take a key city out.

All that had to be done then, was to gift the city to Varn and establish an alliance against the wicked elves. Then I was free to go about my business while lame-o and Drizzt's sister duked it out in a never-ending blood bath.

Anyway, the difference between our experiences is that the Svartlafar always seem to prevail in the games I play. Usually they end up taking from others instead of losing.

 

[Grey Fox]

Anyway, the difference between our experiences is that the Svartlafar always seem to prevail in the games I play. Usually they end up taking from others instead of losing.

Same here, Svartalfar almost always does well in my games.