Adonias
Warlord
Also take into consideration the "cheesy circle" #one is exactly right, so distance maintanance is zero...
Where would you place the 2nd city?
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Spot 2, although i would take the blue circle (when moving the settler) in mind. Maybe there are strategic resources within spot 3 it's range, witch you can't see yet.
You shouldn't take spot 1 since it's low on forest. Hold off Gandhi and chop rush thirs settler for sport 1. But when resources like bronze/iron/horses show up, it all depends. Gems are good but since it's Monarch you will be able to grow large enough till you settle the third city on spot 1.
I also play on Emperor+
You shouldn't take spot 1 since it's low on forest. Hold off Gandhi and chop rush thirs settler for sport 1. But when resources like bronze/iron/horses show up, it all depends. Gems are good but since it's Monarch you will be able to grow large enough till you settle the third city on spot 1.
I also play on Emperor+
Thanks a lot for your smart opinions. I couldn't read them until today. I answer two questions:
- I don't know what lies to the north of site#1.
- The map is terra standard, speed normal.
I finally settled in #1. One of the reasons was that I would lose another 5 turns to get to #2. Anyway, I'll try ASAP to settle inland my 3rd city.
From your answers (from people who know much more than me about this game) I see that there is no a DEFINITE ANSWER for the problems of strategy you get in CIV. I think that this is one thing that makes this game great. I've been playing TOTAL WAR for a long time, but since I discovered CIV I couldn't stop playing. I think it may be as deep as chess (but funnier in my opinion). You keep on learning all time...
Well, thanks a lot again for your answers.
Joyodongo
- I don't know what lies to the north of site#1.
- The map is terra standard, speed normal.
I finally settled in #1. One of the reasons was that I would lose another 5 turns to get to #2. Anyway, I'll try ASAP to settle inland my 3rd city.
From your answers (from people who know much more than me about this game) I see that there is no a DEFINITE ANSWER for the problems of strategy you get in CIV. I think that this is one thing that makes this game great. I've been playing TOTAL WAR for a long time, but since I discovered CIV I couldn't stop playing. I think it may be as deep as chess (but funnier in my opinion). You keep on learning all time...
Well, thanks a lot again for your answers.
Joyodongo
White Elk
99 > 1
Indeed!!joyodongo said:
Oh Hey.. Would you do us the favor of keeping us updated? It'd be interesting to see how this early game works out. And I think it'd be cool for someone to play the save at the point before you settled, and then settle in site2 instead? Then compare the games after 40 turns or so. See how that affected things.. ??
spot #2 period :
- hill mean defence bonus
- access to fresh water from oasis
- access to two ressources (wheat and cows)
- many trees to chop a third settler quickly for spot #1 and troops/wonder after that
- if you don't settle #2 right now, india will do probably
remember that you need iron working to mine gems on spot 1 since it's on jungle
- hill mean defence bonus
- access to fresh water from oasis
- access to two ressources (wheat and cows)
- many trees to chop a third settler quickly for spot #1 and troops/wonder after that
- if you don't settle #2 right now, india will do probably
remember that you need iron working to mine gems on spot 1 since it's on jungle
luckynick said:
Obvioulsy he is currently researching iron working (not too good in spanish, but i understand he'll have iron work in 6 turns)
I would go for n°1 for the time reason, too.
One city right now, coastal (so one trade route, from the start!), with gems to catch, 2 food bonus to make it grow... quite good.
You'll need a lighthouse pretty soon, though (lots of water around it = no farms)
White Elk said:Indeed!!
Oh Hey.. Would you do us the favor of keeping us updated? It'd be interesting to see how this early game works out. And I think it'd be cool for someone to play the save at the point before you settled, and then settle in site2 instead? Then compare the games after 40 turns or so. See how that affected things.. ??
Of course, White Elk. I didn't go much forward in this game because I'm playing three more and don't have much time. But tonight, at home, I'll upload the save at the point of the screensave and let people who want, play the game.
Saludos.
#2 gets my vote. The most important city locations for the early game are border spots to capture resources. If you settle #1 first, India might snatch the area all around #2. If you settle #2 first, you can always get #1 site later.
Expand your borders...
*Just to note that your capital city is going to be a huge food/commerce powerhouse. I'd make it a GP farm/commerce city.
Expand your borders...
*Just to note that your capital city is going to be a huge food/commerce powerhouse. I'd make it a GP farm/commerce city.
If you go to #2 and chop a settler you will get your third city more quickly, and possibly your fourth. By the time you produce the settler for your third city you should have iron working and can decide what your best option is for your third city.
If you go #1 you will settle your third and fourth city much later and will have a hard time carving out any decent amount of land. Something that could be a problem because you are kind of boxed in.
Ghandi is to your east and seems like a possible early enemy. You went for iron working early? so an aggressive early game seems to be what you are going for?
If you go #1 you will settle your third and fourth city much later and will have a hard time carving out any decent amount of land. Something that could be a problem because you are kind of boxed in.
Ghandi is to your east and seems like a possible early enemy. You went for iron working early? so an aggressive early game seems to be what you are going for?
Well, as I told before I post the save of the game so the people can play it the way they like. I'll settle now in #1 and then I'll build settler 2 in London as soon as the workboat (that will go to the clam in city 2) finishes to grab the #2 land.
Maybe this will become an spontaneous GOTM.
Saludos.
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Maybe this will become an spontaneous GOTM.
Saludos.
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3 is definitely useless in the long term, 2 is much better, don't forget the oasis you would lose, as well.
I might be overlooking sth, but why don't you just move a tile east of 1, seems perfect - no overlap, extra hammer from hill, extra forest to chop (edit: overlooked that it is jungle, but still...)
Of course have in mind that you might lose 2 to your neighbour if you are not quick enough.
I might be overlooking sth, but why don't you just move a tile east of 1, seems perfect - no overlap, extra hammer from hill, extra forest to chop (edit: overlooked that it is jungle, but still...)
Of course have in mind that you might lose 2 to your neighbour if you are not quick enough.
White Elk
99 > 1
Or a TOTM. Test of the Month.joyodongo said:
Well, I finally settled in #1. Then iron revealed, and now there he is, settler2, trying to find out the best place for the third city. You can see original #2 and #3. I decided to go for #4.
Taking into account that this city would only grow to a decent size in #2 but losing iron (there is no copper, so...)
-#3. I could lose iron if Mali puts a city close to it to the south
-#5. Only 2 grass tiles to work (+spices with calendar)
-#6. Only 1 grass tile but can work ocean tiles, 1 hill and distance 7 from capital
-#4. 5 distance from capital, some hills and can work ocean tiles
I would like this thread to be a city placement discussion, so I'll post the screens like this as I keep advancing in the game just to see what you think, ok?
Saludos
Taking into account that this city would only grow to a decent size in #2 but losing iron (there is no copper, so...)
-#3. I could lose iron if Mali puts a city close to it to the south
-#5. Only 2 grass tiles to work (+spices with calendar)
-#6. Only 1 grass tile but can work ocean tiles, 1 hill and distance 7 from capital
-#4. 5 distance from capital, some hills and can work ocean tiles
I would like this thread to be a city placement discussion, so I'll post the screens like this as I keep advancing in the game just to see what you think, ok?
Saludos
This is my new situation.
So, the point is now, the 4th city.
-#7. Wheat, cow, oasis and some hills
-#8. As Jorunkun said, thiss place would gain access to the North
- Even #9 (not written on the map) would be in the previous map, to the SE of 5, to gain access to marble and gold
I think 7 is the one.
Saludos.
So, the point is now, the 4th city.
-#7. Wheat, cow, oasis and some hills
-#8. As Jorunkun said, thiss place would gain access to the North
- Even #9 (not written on the map) would be in the previous map, to the SE of 5, to gain access to marble and gold
I think 7 is the one.
Saludos.
White Elk
99 > 1
I've played to 650BC and I'm not sure what to post.
Heres a screenie from 1480 BC..
This is a really cool game. Great start with ideally suited traits! And a Good game for people new to Monarch.
Heres a screenie from 1480 BC..
This is a really cool game. Great start with ideally suited traits! And a Good game for people new to Monarch.
@Previous poster : why didn't u place the third city (near iron) on the desert tile east. You make use of the desert and don't waste 1 good forest?
Besides that, i think those would be my choises also.
Spot 1 is always open for settle, you need to secure land.
I forgot; i remember from a previous screenshot there is gold and marble within reach. I would go for those rightaway from this moment. (Or take it when someone settles it). Gold pays for its maintance and gives hapiness and marble, well that's obvious,.. (GL)
Besides that, i think those would be my choises also.
Spot 1 is always open for settle, you need to secure land.
I forgot; i remember from a previous screenshot there is gold and marble within reach. I would go for those rightaway from this moment. (Or take it when someone settles it). Gold pays for its maintance and gives hapiness and marble, well that's obvious,.. (GL)
White Elk
99 > 1
I wanted the extra Hills production I got there. Plus I would have lost a Grassland and a shared Plains. And I would have gained a desert tile even though I was losing one.
Oh.. and I settled Site1 first. It's a rockin city by that point.
Oh.. and I settled Site1 first. It's a rockin city by that point.
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