Lexicus
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Timur captured the Sultan and plunged the Ottomans into a civil war lasting over a decade, so I think that definitely counts. The British and French also conquered basically the entire Ottoman Empire after WW1.
Which country was never a colony or under foreign rule in its entire history?
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Timur captured the Sultan and plunged the Ottomans into a civil war lasting over a decade, so I think that definitely counts. The British and French also conquered basically the entire Ottoman Empire after WW1.
I was thinking Rome (now Italy), but Napoleon.
Funny, it's only a dozen powers/nations that take almost every 'current capital' off the list:
The Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, the Mongolian Empire, and the British Empire cover Asia and Australia.
British, French, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese colonized all of North and South America and Africa.
Europe by the British, the Roman Empire, Napoleon, Hitler, Alexander, and the Soviets.
I'd focus on Pacific islands.
And if no one actually takes the OP's crown, what country has owned its current capital the longest?
Funny, it's only a dozen powers/nations that take almost every 'current capital' off the list:
The Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, the Mongolian Empire, and the British Empire cover Asia and Australia.
British, French, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese colonized all of North and South America and Africa.
Europe by the British, the Roman Empire, Napoleon, Hitler, Alexander, and the Soviets.
I'd focus on Pacific islands.
And if no one actually takes the OP's crown, what country has owned its current capital the longest?
Hmmm...
Russia: 1480 ("Overthrow of the Yoke of the Tatars")
England: 1066
Japan: 1185? Or, 1945.
Napoleon and Hitler really blew up a bunch of brackets.
Russia: 1480 ("Overthrow of the Yoke of the Tatars")
England: 1066
Japan: 1185? Or, 1945.
Napoleon and Hitler really blew up a bunch of brackets.
Zkribbler
Deity
Thailand.
Andorra
Andorra
God of Kings
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Thailand was occupied by the Japanese during the Second World War.
Andorra has foreign heads of state, along with it being part of the Roman Empire at one point.
Zkribbler
Deity
Monaco
Tonga
Tonga
There is only one country like this in the world - Russia.
The Mongols didn't conquer it, they went to the southern parts. That's pretty much the same as claiming US conquered Russia because Ukraine is under US rule at the moment.
Edti: Well and the US i guess.
The Mongols didn't conquer it, they went to the southern parts. That's pretty much the same as claiming US conquered Russia because Ukraine is under US rule at the moment.
Edti: Well and the US i guess.
sophie
Break My Heart
uh...wat? The Muscovite State was a dependency of the Tatars for like a solid century.
I mean the way you are trying to go about arguing it is itself dumb, for the same reason as the talks about "China" in this or another WH thread. It's a nationality whose definition is dependent on current borders, but whose identity also retroactively declares the identity to have always been that way. You can see the same thing with: England (to a lesser extent Great Britain), Germany, and France.
I mean the way you are trying to go about arguing it is itself dumb, for the same reason as the talks about "China" in this or another WH thread. It's a nationality whose definition is dependent on current borders, but whose identity also retroactively declares the identity to have always been that way. You can see the same thing with: England (to a lesser extent Great Britain), Germany, and France.
I never said anything about China, I'm talking about Russia. England, Germany and France have been conquered and ruled by foreign powers multiple times and even today day have US bases plastered everywhere, so claims of Monaco to be independent are kind of amusing.
No it's not. Why would you try to link past events with current-day borders. That's nonsense. The most ironic thing is to assume "The Muscovite State" to be Russia when it was founded elsewhere. But, sure, if you want to play this game, Russia as "Russia" didn't exist back then other than a collection of smaller feudal states, so the Mongols conquering some of them doesn't mean anything for the state of Russia, past or present day. Like i already said. Ukraine.
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England was under foreign rule at one point (note William the Conqueror's conquest of England in 1066).
Danelaw. Glorious Revolution.
Well, it's an amusing thread, isn't it? By the way, you forgot about the amusing countries of Monaco, Andorra, and Switzerland.
Well, it's an amusing thread, isn't it? By the way, you forgot about the amusing countries of Monaco, Andorra, and Switzerland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_the_British_Isles
Quite a long list. Heck Britain's capital was founded by invaders.
Well, Monaco, Andorra, Tonga etc belong to countries that aren't big enough to even bother and their "independence" is simply a result of someone else's powerplay, or just negligence. Switzerland is in another ballpark completely, they are crazy mountain people with lots of weapons. And money.
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Yes, I know that England was under multiple foreign rulers; I just listed one of the more recent ones.
People and countries are shaped by geography and the Alps were always there (relatively speaking). You don't really think the Swiss mutated to learn how to grow money and weapons on trees and everybody started to be nice to them because they are such nice people?
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