Which is your favorite Chivalry UU?

[dreamvirus]

War Elephant. Extra hp should not be underestimated, an elite war elephant is almost as effective on attack as a veteran cavalry. Plus, no resources needed to build it?? Anyone who has suffered through a game with no access to iron will understand the power of a resourceless chivalric UU.

Plus they just look so CUTE. I hate it when they die, it makes me feel really sad, like I've just stomped on a squirrel

 

[Tomoyo]

What are the stats of the Idiotic Radioactive Monkey? Otherwise I would say the War Elephant is the best, but the Samurai is my favorite. (When they're not fighting, Pink Riders look cool too)

 

[Theoden]

At the start of the thread Denyd said that this was a case where you had both iron and horses so fact that war elephants requires resources shouldn't be taken into account, only the fact that they've got an extra HP.

 

[Volum]

Ansar without a doubt, since he said it was a continets/pangea map the extra movement would be gold.

 

[Richard Cribb]

Chinese Rider.

 

[Capt Buttkick]

I voted Ansars, but Riders aren't far behind, espescially if you have Leo's and can do cheaper horse upgrades.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Voted Rider, but the Ansar is very close.

I've never got just what is so great about Samurai.

 

[denyd]

Last Conformist: Most people (like me) like the the 4 defense. It allows the stack to have a quality defender along and move at 2-speed. Also, since the defense is 4, I can leave wounded Samurai in a newly conquered city to heal as garrison troops and still have a reasonably good defender. A fortfied Samurai has a pretty good chance of winning against a long-bow/knight, while and Ansar is likely to lose.

I guess nobody likes the Keshik. I've never played with them (The GOTM with the Mongols substitited 4 units for other units instead), so I can't say from personal expierence whether they are good or bad.

 

[kokoras]

Indian War Elephant.I find this UU one of the best,either as off-def status & as an art work.

 

[Pook]

Ansar. Its three move makes it able to avoid counterattacks/hide behind pikes. Therefore its disability is not that serious and the reduced cost makes it slightly preferable to the rider.

What he said. Speed kills. Ansars are deadly.

 

[zerksees]

At the start of the thread Denyd said that this was a case where you had both iron and horses so fact that war elephants requires resources shouldn't be taken into account, only the fact that they've got an extra HP.

This premise (having iron and horses) makes the war elephant of no extra benefit, unless you are on archipelago and not all your cities are hooked up. I am glad someone else noticed this.

Under this premise the rider gets my vote, as the extra range is really handy for defense or offense. I suppose any other 3 move unit would work as well, though I have not played them.

Not having iron and horses guaranteed, I think the war elephant is best, especially in C3C where the resources are less plentiful. I used to think India was the weakest civ until I played it. That war elephant greatly increases your chance of surviving to the next age.

 

[WillSen]

They are all useful but I've only played civs with the normal knight unit, so obviously for me thats the one.

 

[Dreadnought]

I think we can all agree that the Mongol Keshik is the worst Chivarly UU and possibly the worst UU period!

 

[bingen]

This premise (having iron and horses) makes the war elephant of no extra benefit, unless you are on archipelago and not all your cities are hooked up. I am glad someone else noticed this.

The war elephant has an extra hit point in C3C. This makes it IMO better than the Samurai both with iron(no horses needed for Sammy either) and without(obiously). One of the best knight UUs, but I prefer Ansars/Riders.

 

[dreamvirus]

I think the very fact that the thread had to specify that iron and horses were available makes it pretty obvious that all things being equal, the War Elephant is by far the best chivalric unit. Iron and horses, if you don't have them, are incredibly expensive. I am deliberately ignoring the premise of the thread to make my point

 

[LLXerxes]

I kinda like the regular one...
But, I do agree that the samurai kicks butt

 

[zerksees]

The war elephant has an extra hit point in C3C. This makes it IMO better than the Samurai both with iron(no horses needed for Sammy either) and without(obiously). One of the best knight UUs, but I prefer Ansars/Riders.

As you can tell I have not played the war elephant in C3C yet. That extra hit point makes it all the better.

 

[Neildo]

I like the Keshik only because I got rid of the ignore mountain terrain ability and gave them blitz instead to make them more feared and Mongolish.

Using standard rules, I prefer the samurai due to the well-balanced offense and defense and the other reasons people mentioned earlier.

- N

 

[Sobassis]

Samurai because they are good on the attack and the defense and provide reasonably good troops for an army if you get one early on. Also the two movement points make them very very good.

 

[dreamvirus]

Samurai because they are good on the attack and the defense and provide reasonably good troops for an army if you get one early on. Also the two movement points make them very very good.

All of the chivalry UUs have 2 movement points and they are all good in an army.