Which unrevealed civ you want to turn out most "right"?

[rastak]

So I'm just gunna go out there and say I would be wildly surprised if Churchill ever turns up in a civ game again. He is really not a popular figure in the former British empire anymore, not in small part due to his rampant racism and his involvement in all sorts of dodgy things in colonial Africa.

If England is in I could see Alfred the great or Rochard the Lionheart. Or if Britain is in, maybe Victoria or for an out there choice D'Israeli

A James or a Charles would be great fun though

What, no Maggie Thatcher?

 

[CaiusDrewart]

Robespierre Leader Unique: Government and policy changes cost population instead of gold.

I think a France under Robespierre with the ability to change governments more quickly than other civs would actually be pretty darn cool. Perhaps he could also rapidly raise large armies of conscripts when he is attacked by a foreign power.

The civilization series has never been great at capturing the very important historical process of revolution (Civ IV only gestured in this direction with the concept of anarchy, Civ V with its ideology switching system). Robespierre could change that and be a new and interesting leader. And yes, he was a merciless man and an unlikable zealot, but the Civ series traditionally contains the likes of Shaka, Julius Caesar, and Genghis Khan. I don't see a problem there.


I suspect we'll get Napoleon or Louis XIV though.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

What, no Maggie Thatcher?

Special ability: milk snatcher: gain extra money from cows instead of food

 

[ehecatzin]

The fact they've got more uniques per civ gives me hope most will be much more fleshed out, America is looking good, and it was one of the blander one in Civ5.

I made a post about it, I'd really like the Aztec leader whoever he is, to actually look like an Aztec emperor, I also have my fingers crossed on the Chinampas (floating gardens) being a unique district as oposed to a UB, it would look so cool.

I'm really hoping for an interesting Rome as well, given the district system, I think the Forum as a unique district would be great, hopefully they'll get really interesting stuff as oposed to the boring discount on buildings.

 

[Zaarin]

I'll be disappointed if France doesn't get Louis XIV, one of the biggest personalities in history. I'm also ardently hoping that Native Americans will be represented by a tribe from the Pacific Northwest, whose cultural achievements are second to none.

 

[ehecatzin]

I'll be disappointed if France doesn't get Louis XIV, one of the biggest personalities in history.

+1

Seeing as Great people are actually unique this time around, I think Napoleon would be better off as a Great General, same for Alexander.

 

[Scaramanga]

This sounds about "right":

Persia
Leader Xerxes
Historical Agenda King of Kings - Dislikes those with city-state allies on his continent
Civilization Ability Achaemenid Dynasty - +Culture/Amenities in all cities
Leader Ability Can build the Pontoon Bridge Support Unit, combat bonus against city-states on its continent
Unique Unit Immortal
Unique Building Apadana

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'll be disappointed if France doesn't get Louis XIV, one of the biggest personalities in history. I'm also ardently hoping that Native Americans will be represented by a tribe from the Pacific Northwest, whose cultural achievements are second to none.

Any big personality leaders among the Northwest Native Americans? Chief Seattle is the only one that comes to mind for me.

 

[CaiusDrewart]

This sounds about "right":

Persia
Leader Xerxes
Historical Agenda King of Kings - Dislikes those with city-state allies on his continent
Civilization Ability Achaemenid Dynasty - +Culture/Amenities in all cities
Leader Ability Can build the Pontoon Bridge Support Unit, combat bonus against city-states on its continent
Unique Unit Immortal
Unique Building Apadana

I like the historical agenda and civilization UA here (Persia should definitely have a UA that encourages going wide, and since they were famously tolerant rulers this one makes sense), but I don't know about having the Persia's theme based so heavily on a failed war with Greece.

 

[Zaarin]

Any big personality leaders among the Northwest Native Americans? Chief Seattle is the only one that comes to mind for me.

Sadly, I don't know; I'm quite familiar with their art and artifacts but not as familiar with their history. From some of the poetry I've read (some of it historical), I don't think finding a dynamic leader would be too hard, though--with the caveat that none of the PNW tribes were ever in any way centralized even as paramount chiefdoms.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Any big personality leaders among the Northwest Native Americans? Chief Seattle is the only one that comes to mind for me.

There's Cumshewa or more likely Koyah for the Haida. Essentially painted in history as angry pirates

 

[Human Crouton]

Robespierre Leader Unique: Government and policy changes cost population instead of gold.

I laughed. That was harsh.

 

[Human Crouton]

This sounds about "right":

Persia
Leader Xerxes
Historical Agenda King of Kings - Dislikes those with city-state allies on his continent
Civilization Ability Achaemenid Dynasty - +Culture/Amenities in all cities
Leader Ability Can build the Pontoon Bridge Support Unit, combat bonus against city-states on its continent
Unique Unit Immortal
Unique Building Apadana

Xerxes - Leader Ability: +50 percent combat bonus against sea tiles.

 

[Ikael]

First, I would dare to say that they NAILED the United States. Love, love this version. Only thing missing it is more focus into expansion (pioneers, the spirit of the frontier, etc) but other than that, great job so far, Firaxis!

And now, into the others:

England: They invented capitalism, so it is about damn time that they get a trade bonus, don't you think? Also, it would be good to have more focus into their apex (victorian times) and empire building skills (bonuses for going wide?)

Spain: Exploration gallore, with a very heavy dash of religion (Isabella), please. I really loved Civ 5's bonus, as it forced you to roleplay a bit, but perhaps a more consistent bonus / reward for colonizing far away lands would be in order. Also, it would be good to have some kind of bonus for tourism, considering that Spain is nowadays the second most touristic country in the world (right after France)

Germany: Vainilla Civ 5's depiction was pathetic, thanks God BNW improved it a lot. I would love to see a more "Prussian" type of germany: Industrious and economic powerhouse, with a heavy penchant for philosophy.

France: Culturemonger + uber-capital bonus. France is some of the most centralized nations of the world, so better show it. Civ 5 BNW went into a really good direction with it.

Rome: Conquerors & builders. Huge military bonuses / UUs that would allow it to take territory, and governance bonuses that would allow you to keep and develope said territory. An emphasis on the "romanization" of its conquered subjects would also be good to see it represented too!

Greece: I really didn't liked the whole CS cum conqueror focus, Greece was a bit of a mess politically talking (it was Sparta afterall who defeated Athens, not Persia). They should be centered around building up tech, culture, and building naval / commercial outposts me thinks.

Persia: Now, this a civ that should revolve around CS (satraps!) and mantaining big, albeit not entirely governable empires. A strong bonus in faith production should also be present, I think (they founded the world's first monotheistic religion afterall).

Ottomans: One of the worst represented civs in Civ 5, I really hope that they build the Ottoman civ from scratch. Big bonuses for going tall in your capital (Constantinople!) and perhaps some kind of late game nation-building could be in order too (Attaturk!).

 

[bite]

Xerxes - Leader Ability: +50 percent combat bonus against sea tiles.

A good Ancient history joke there my good sir, bravo

 

[Zaarin]

There's Cumshewa or more likely Koyah for the Haida. Essentially painted in history as angry pirates

Just looked them up--both good choices. If the Haida are included, I hope we see Skaay as a great writer and Bill Reid as a great artist.

 

[Scaramanga]

I like the historical agenda and civilization UA here (Persia should definitely have a UA that encourages going wide, and since they were famously tolerant rulers this one makes sense), but I don't know about having the Persia's theme based so heavily on a failed war with Greece.

The failed (but awesome) war with Greece only touches the leader's specific bonuses, which I think is in line with how the uniques work.

Xerxes - Leader Ability: +50 percent combat bonus against sea tiles.

Leader Ability: Whip It Good

 

[Bast]

I want Victoria for England. Agenda is Empress of India. Combat bonus on foreign continents.

 

[King Jason]

England: They invented capitalism, so it is about damn time that they get a trade bonus, don't you think? Also, it would be good to have more focus into their apex (victorian times) and empire building skills (bonuses for going wide?)

Germany: Vainilla Civ 5's depiction was pathetic, thanks God BNW improved it a lot. I would love to see a more "Prussian" type of germany: Industrious and economic powerhouse, with a heavy penchant for philosophy.

Greece: I really didn't liked the whole CS cum conqueror focus, Greece was a bit of a mess politically talking (it was Sparta afterall who defeated Athens, not Persia). They should be centered around building up tech, culture, and building naval / commercial outposts me thinks.

Pretty much agreed on all counts. In civilization 4, often times the two different leaders of a civ would share one of the 8(?) traits, and then have one of their own. Even back then I felt this was indicative having a trait that reflected the civilization itself, and one that reflected the leader.

The trait that both leaders of England had when civ4 came out? Financial. Their representation in civ5 in terms of gameplay was horrendous. Which may be a common theme since Germany's was terrible too.

I actually didn't mind the city-state theme of Greece cause it was very Hellenic League-ish to me. Perhaps it just didn't fit with Alexander. I would like so seem them represent their Navy for once, though.

 

[j51]

I made a post about it, I'd really like the Aztec leader whoever he is, to actually look like an Aztec emperor, I also have my fingers crossed on the Chinampas (floating gardens) being a unique district as oposed to a UB, it would look so cool.

Yeah, seeing Chinampas on the map would be so friggin' awesome!