While We Wait: Part 4

[North King]

Anyways, didn't my talk about car fuel possibilities make any sense to you??

In a word, no.

I was talking about nuclear power plants. Hydrogen powered cars are not powered by fusion, they are fuel cells. They combine hydrogen and oxygen to form water. They would only blow up in the same sense that gasoline does.

 

[sp1023]

oh. Then where did I get the idea about nuclear energy for cars?

 

[North King]

Obama, frankly, scares me a little (though not enough that I'll vote for McCain instead)--it seems that he's developing a cult of personality.

Well, that's only among the very young. I simply think he's a decent politician, a very rare breed indeed.

Worse that that is his non-plan for Iraq, which as far as I can tell consists of withdrawing immediately no matter the consequences. I believe, and will argue, that at this juncture staying in Iraq is less destabilizing to the middle east than pulling out.

I'd tend to agree, but given a choice between that and the prospect of standoffish hostility to other nations, which is what the other side brings to the table...

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Well, that's why I'm not voting for McCain!

I'm resigned to Obama winning at this point anyway--I just hope that the Democrat's don't manage to lose themselves the election again...

 

[Birdjaguar]

Obama, frankly, scares me a little (though not enough that I'll vote for McCain instead)--it seems that he's developing a cult of personality. Worse that that is his non-plan for Iraq, which as far as I can tell consists of withdrawing immediately no matter the consequences. I believe, and will argue, that at this juncture staying in Iraq is less destabilizing to the middle east than pulling out.

It is called "charisma" and we haven't seen it much in recent years. We need it now to help dispell some of the cynicism.

 

[Thlayli]

I'm rather worried about Obama in that he's an untested politician, albeit one with brilliant rhetoric. He'd be a more credible candidate if he had some more governance experience, but the transition from running a senatorial office to running a nation of 300 million shouldn't be taken lightly. He should at least complete a term.

And I've been in Obama's (Hart Building) office. It's not large.

 

[sp1023]

Yes, well hes the best hope for nation unification. Why doesn't Ron Paul drop out tho?

 

[Supermath]

I'm leaning towards Obama, mainly as a change of pace. Though Gravel vs. Paul would be interesting.

 

[mrpwn3r]

Even though I'm somewhat moderately conservative (blasphemy!) I'd choose Obama over McCain right now.

 

[sp1023]

Gravel has no chance. My father thinks Joe Biron's ideals were the best, but he's dead. And who hates Ralph Nader? Say I!

 

[Thlayli]

I'm sorry, but I just see something wrong in all of this. Barack Obama's running on the sole quantity of being Barack Obama. He's SO charismatic that people fail to grasp the fact that he hasn't articulated ANY policy positions, beyond a basic statement of "universal healthcare" or "immediate withdrawal from Iraq."

Yes, crowds across America will cheer if Obama is elected, but as Henry Kissinger states, "there will be killing fields" as the Fall of Saigon replays itself in the deserts of Mesopotamia.

 

[sp1023]

Err, I don't get the Saigon part. Anything to do with the Vietnam war?

 

[Thlayli]

Err, I don't get the Saigon part. Anything to do with the Vietnam war?

Wikipedia is your best defense against obvious questions.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Err, I don't get the Saigon part. Anything to do with the Vietnam war?

Yes. Wikipedia is your friend.

@Thlayli: Totally agree, at least with the first paragraph. I assume, though, that if Obama is actually elected he'll realize he needs to be more pragmatic, rather than rashly following through on his campaign promises (specifically with regard to Iraq).

 

[Birdjaguar]

Yes, crowds across America will cheer if Obama is elected, but as Henry Kissinger states, "there will be killing fields" as the Fall of Saigon replays itself in the deserts of Mesopotamia.

So you mean that Iraqis will kill each other if we leave?

 

[sp1023]

Well, his Iraquian promises are ok...

But that will simply create more problems in the Middle East. being used to fighting Americans, where will all those Al Quaida bombs go?

 

[jalapeno_dude]

So you mean that Iraqis will kill each other if we leave?

Isn't that fairly obvious? Though we're not particularly good at stopping them while we're there, it will get worse if we leave, especially when Iran gets involved (and then if Saudi Arabia and other Sunni nations prop up the Sunnis).

 

[~Darkening~]

I voted for Clinton, through she failed to take the state. And yes, my reason is that obvious.

 

[North King]

I'm rather worried about Obama in that he's an untested politician, albeit one with brilliant rhetoric. He'd be a more credible candidate if he had some more governance experience, but the transition from running a senatorial office to running a nation of 300 million shouldn't be taken lightly. He should at least complete a term.

I don't particularly mind the lack of experience. I think that very little can actually prepare you for being the President of the US.

And I've been in Obama's (Hart Building) office. It's not large.

So have I. It's the same for all junior Senators.

I'm sorry, but I just see something wrong in all of this. Barack Obama's running on the sole quantity of being Barack Obama. He's SO charismatic that people fail to grasp the fact that he hasn't articulated ANY policy positions, beyond a basic statement of "universal healthcare" or "immediate withdrawal from Iraq."

Actually, there are quite a few others, they just get publicized less often. Take, for example, his movement for more transparency in the government -- this is something that makes me particularly happy with him. Or a strong effort to make college more affordable. I wonder if we can finance the latter, but if we can, it would be great.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Cutting edge nuclear power homne grown in New Mexico.

http://green.bligblog.com/hyperion-reactor-takes-on-energy-crisis-in-a-green-way-5455.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/246566/Portable_nuclear_reactor_powers_25_000_homes

http://blogs.abcnews.com/scienceandsociety/2007/11/a-nuclear-react.html