While We Wait: Part 6

[Stormbringer]

I'm not trying to contest the accuracy or lack thereof of any personal claims being made.

But it would be best to keep within the forum rules regardless.

QFT

10char

 

[Sheep]

I dont ask for anyone to defend me Symphony, I am 25 I dont need my friends to gang up on you for my sake. But in the intrests of this thread, I am entering into no further discussions as I have reported as I previously stated I would.

I have done nothing wrong, you attacked me for no reason. Yes I made mistakes in the past when I was younger, big deal, get over it, and if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything further.

 

[~Darkening~]

Originally posted by Sheep
@Darkening, how was I being superior before with the American stuff? I was being sarcastic at times and being tounge in cheek, but not haughty. I just wish you guys realised that you need to learn more of the world and take us non-American nesers into account when you set deadlines like Thanksgiving, which means something to you, but rather not a lot to me.

....Are you being serious right now? Honestly? You have to know that sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek isn't carried very well over the internet, in the first place. How is anyone supposed to tell the difference when you act in the same manner all the time? That said, you ignored all my points (other than saying "I was being sarcastic"), forcing me to actually go back.

Well I am a big white boy that can act quite racist if I really want, so I am guessing I can fit in just fine for enough time to do it and then get back home. Of course I would be a nice guy arrange to meet ya and then suggest you take me for a tour of the local swamps or some . .. .. .. ..

{Post 278}

I just assumed it was you guys after a while because you have to do everything else diffrent.

-{Post 294}

It really didnt start dominating in the world until about 1945 when you let the nuclear bomb go to your heads (or at least the Presidents did)

{Post 299}

But cool I will have to remember that and it may be a reason as to why America does things differently, although I do not understand it still as when they would of been deciding it the American President would of looked down his nose at the Chinese.

{Post 306}

Bush lead you guys somewhere alright, he lead you backwards.

{Post 309}

As you get older Symph you will begin to realise that attacks on people at this first place is not a coherent adult-level activity and in fact will eventually cause you to earn a pariah status of sorts, if it has not already done so in many of your own personal circles.

I humour you and play you along because you give me something to do.

{Post 334}

I want you to point out where you were being sarcastic and humble, because for some reason I really can't seem to find it. To beat it all, once again you stereotyped us: "I just wish you guys realised that you need to learn more of the world"- you do realize that you know nothing about me or my knowledge of the world? You know nothing about the 299.99 million Americans other than what you stereotyped, and on that page I can assume things about you being an Aussie.

But I rather dislike being an ass, so I attempt to avoid doing that. And yes, the mod should consider the issues a player has, but that is a one-on-one issue. If you have a problem with the deadline, ask the mod- I don't think there is a single unreasonable mod here that would refuse to hear you out. Don't whine about something when it has nothing to do with your issue at hand.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

I feel sad when people use "I" statements as part of an attempt to look peaceful or defensive, and I think I'd be happier if people realized this is only a passive aggressive technique, as it makes the speaker look defensive and as though they're trying to reach an agreement, when, in fact, they're not backing down from the troubling position in the first place.

Also, Sheep, your signature might be considered just a little bit condescending. "CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA YOU FINALLY GOT SOMETHING RIGHT" doesn't exactly give an impression of respect.

 

[Sheep]

Yeah but its no secret that I dont respect American foreign policy.... I have never made it a secret. Its a political view I do hold sincerely, however I do feel Obama will help America right some of its wrongs... and this is what this signature means.

 

[Symphony D.]

you attacked me for no reason.

Yeah, you didn't have a Captain Obvious moment, and pay with a bit of sarcasm. I suppose if that's an "attack" you must be getting cancer from the alpha-rays your monitor is pumping out. Then you had to keep trying to reach for the comeback, and you kept falling short, so you pulled the psychobabble BS routine yet again. You want to know what you did wrong, that was it. That you haven't recognized it yet demonstrates how terrible you are at the whole playing-the-victim routine.

I don't mind it if it's the best strategy you can come up with when you play with the big boys, but please, do get better and less transparent about it.

 

[alex994]

@Chand, yeah, sheep implying that America never got ANYTHING right didn't go over very well. I guess it must have been a bad decision for the USA to have helped Australia out in WWII

 

[Sheep]

....Are you being serious right now? Honestly? You have to know that sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek isn't carried very well over the internet, in the first place. How is anyone supposed to tell the difference when you act in the same manner all the time? That said, you ignored all my points (other than saying "I was being sarcastic"), forcing me to actually go back.

{Post 278}
-{Post 294}
{Post 299}
{Post 306}
{Post 309}

{Post 334}

I want you to point out where you were being sarcastic and humble, because for some reason I really can't seem to find it. To beat it all, once again you stereotyped us: "I just wish you guys realised that you need to learn more of the world"- you do realize that you know nothing about me or my knowledge of the world? You know nothing about the 299.99 million Americans other than what you stereotyped, and on that page I can assume things about you being an Aussie.

But I rather dislike being an ass, so I attempt to avoid doing that. And yes, the mod should consider the issues a player has, but that is a one-on-one issue. If you have a problem with the deadline, ask the mod- I don't think there is a single unreasonable mod here that would refuse to hear you out. Don't whine about something when it has nothing to do with your issue at hand.

Mate at the risk of causing you to argue with me, I must point out those random quotes have been taken far out of context. So yeah okay you have your opinion.. thats cool, but keep what I say in the context I say it if you would be so kind.

 

[Masada]

Currently spiritually residing across the Tasman with my man Bananalee... ability to disown adoptive or otherwise homelands and all that.

 

[Sheep]

Yeah, you didn't have a Captain Obvious moment, and pay with a bit of sarcasm. I suppose if that's an "attack" you must be getting cancer from the alpha-rays your monitor is pumping out. Then you had to keep trying to reach for the comeback, and you kept falling short, so you pulled the psychobabble BS routine yet again. You want to know what you did wrong, that was it. That you haven't recognized it yet demonstrates how terrible you are at the whole playing-the-victim routine.

I don't mind it if it's the best strategy you can come up with when you play with the big boys, but please, do get better and less transparent about it.

The fact is that you instigated. Second of all I would have no problem with you if you were civil, but as Stormbringer said (then took down) its not your strongest suit. So failing that kindly dont say anything to me at all.

This is the second time this page I have asked you to do this. Take heed.

 

[Sheep]

@Chand, yeah, sheep implying that America never got ANYTHING right didn't go over very well. I guess it must have been a bad decision for the USA to have helped Australia out in WWII

I never implied that, I was actually somewhat of a fan of America up until George W. Bush won in 2000 by what seemed dodgy means... Its just gone downhill from there.

What my signature does and continues to refer to is that with the election of Obama I hope that America will right some of its wrongs over the last 8 years (which the FINALLY part refers to) and begin rebuilding is shattered image.

 

[~Darkening~]

Mate at the risk of causing you to argue with me, I must point out those random quotes have been taken far out of context. So yeah okay you have your opinion.. thats cool, but keep what I say in the context I say it if you would be so kind.

Please point where I took them out of context. I did not change a single one of your words. I even gave the exact spot I took them from so anyone could go back and look at it, just so you couldn't say I was misquoting you. And no, the posts are not out of context when they showed my point- you have no right to speak about someone acting superior or haughty. I've shown plenty of times when you have resorted to a stereotype, a conception, or a 'superior' attitude in your own words.

And no, you were not being sarcastic in those quotes (as truthfully as I can imagine), seeing as I actually left out the ones that appeared to be 'sarcastic'. I took your words out of place? Fine. Then I want you to explain this to me:

Originally posted by Sheep
[sarcastic rant] Of course, us bloodthirsty foreigners delight whenever an American's blood is spilt. 9/11 is just like your Christmas in our unholy calander. We shall come and kill you in your sleep if you ever elect a Democrat... oh wait you just did.. Better start drinking coffee, if I was you then [/sarcastic rant]

Originally posted by Luckymoose
If you dare come into the deep south you can certainly give it a try.

Originally posted by Sheep
Well I am a big white boy that can act quite racist if I really want, so I am guessing I can fit in just fine for enough time to do it and then get back home. Of course I would be a nice guy arrange to meet ya and then suggest you take me for a tour of the local swamps or some . .. .. .. ..

So what exactly did you mean by that? What I took from it was that you were implying that anyone from the south was "a big white boy that can act quite racist", considering that you were making fun of Lucky's background. And as far as I know, that was a stereotype. If I have this in any form wrong, please correct me and I'll move onto the next quote.

Sheep, don't act this game. Admit your mistake and you just might regain some of our respect (if it honestly matters to you).

 

[Symphony D.]

The fact is that you instigated.

And you escalated. You want to point fingers, I've got ten, and I can go all day. You can't handle losing a little battle of wits, so you attack your opponent's psychology and upbringing. Real strong, sound-minded tactic there. Aren't you the poor, innocent little victim in all this? Aww, Symphony D. is a playground bully and hurt Sheep's feelings, so Sheep had the right to psychoanalyze him despite having no formal training and no clue about Symphony D.'s past or mental state, and partake in slander! Yeah, that's logical.

Second of all I would have no problem with you if you were civil, but as Stormbringer said (then took down) its not your strongest suit. So failing that kindly dont say anything to me at all. This is the second time this page I have asked you to do this. Take heed.

Now I am warning you: you are not a Moderator of this forum, and you do not possess the right to tell me what I can and cannot do within the bounds of the forum rules. Responding to you is not an offense. If you don't like seeing it, you are quite free to block me--but don't you dare tell me what to do.

 

[Sheep]

@ Darkening: Read the paragraph underneath the big white boy remark which becomes apparent is tounge in cheek (too anyone who knows me well enough like Moose does) would realise.

And are you telling me that in southern Georgia that if I acted like that I wouldnt find people I could blend in with???? I know it is a sterotype but there are people that live by it. Never for once was I implying that Moose did, I just said some his neighbours do, which he himself has admitted to me on some occasions.

I apologise to moose if this did cause any insult, but none was ever intended and I think that you, Darkening are just reading into it a little too much mate.

 

[alex994]

I never implied that, I was actually somewhat of a fan of America up until George W. Bush won in 2000 by what seemed dodgy means... Its just gone downhill from there.

What my signature does and continues to refer to is that with the election of Obama I hope that America will right some of its wrongs over the last 8 years (which the FINALLY part refers to) and begin rebuilding is shattered image.

Your signature states "CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA YOU FINALLY GOT SOMETHING RIGHT." Now while I agree with you on the USA's favorite soon to be ex-president, I severely dislike what your signature directly states. The word finally in your signature is more then implicit. It's direct. Because to some people, finally refers to MORE then the last eight years.

You don't have to imply it for people to infer it.

 

[Sheep]

@ Symphony: I am not sayin do not respond to me at all, I am saying do not respond to me and personally attack me. If you have a problem with what I write respond to it if it affects you, but respond to the post not me. If you cannot do this and feel the need to resort to personal attacks then do not post at all, there is no need for it.

That is what I ask.

 

[fantasmo]

I hate to be... interrupting the two of you, but can y'all both simmer down? You're both kinda being dicks, and there's absolutely no reason for you to be arguing. I ain't saying either of you is right or wrong about the other, but can youse just stop?

Y'all should feel free to flame me instead, because I normally don't flame back, haha.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

And are you telling me that in southern Georgia that if I acted like that I wouldnt find people I could blend in with???? I know it is a sterotype but there are people that live by it.

So, that justifies it? I'm sure that the aforementioned racists will be overjoyed to know that they can't be criticized for pointing out certain tendencies in select minority communities here, then... which sort of raises the question of why you'd make that stereotype out to be a bad thing in the first place.

 

[Sheep]

Your signature states "CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA YOU FINALLY GOT SOMETHING RIGHT." Now while I agree with you on the USA's favorite soon to be ex-president, I severely dislike what your signature directly states. The word finally in your signature is more then implicit. It's direct. Because to some people, finally refers to MORE then the last eight years.

You don't have to imply it for people to infer it.

Okay well considering you have inferred it, and I have by no means intended to insult have you got a suggestion as to what I can change it to that would still reflect the same meaning that I have inteded to convey?

 

[~Darkening~]

*Sigh*

Of course I wouldnt because that previous post was a sarcastic rant, but I didnt expect you to realise that my friend, after all you take things usually at face value and do not look to see the hidden values, its your most endering quality but one of your larger flaws.

Sorry for not including the part that mentioned the previous post was a sarcastic rant. For some reason I didn't think it was that important, considering (as I already mentioned) I did not originally quote 276 ("Anti-American"), as I did in fact take that as sarcastic. And no, you did not imply that the paragraph was anything but a comeback. It was not italicized, quoted, smiled, or any other excuse that was provided to undervalue the fact you meant what you said. And sorry for not knowing you that well. I'll jump on the stalker bandwagon again, and I'll learn soon enough!

And are you telling me that in southern Georgia that if I acted like that I wouldnt find people I could blend in with???? I know it is a sterotype but there are people that live by it. Never for once was I implying that Moose did, I just said some his neighbours do, which he himself has admitted to me on some occasions.

A stereotype may be based on truth, but you have no right to use it as such. If you weren't imply anything, then I should probably go back to school and retake my English classes. Or maybe its the difference in dialects that we can lay this problem on? You put forth a rebuttal, meant to make the other person look foolish- nothing more, nothing less.

I apologise to moose if this did cause any insult, but none was ever intended and I think that you, Darkening are just reading into it a little too much mate.

I think you're just attempting to skirt the issue. I don't care about that post. I don't care about the other posts. I don't care whether or not you think all Americans are self-absorbed imbeciles without any merit. What I care about is what I originally said- before I got sidetracked on this whole mess: you of all people have no right to accuse someone else of acting superior. Catch him on his other faults, catch him for his actions, but do not catch him for something you are guilty of as well.