Why is Italy never in Civ?

[Pangur Bán]

I've seen a mod or two like that.

As for the OP question, I think it's silly not to say the Italian civilization is in gamplay as the later iterations of the Roman Empire. Despite the post-Fall Germanic coloring, Italian civilization is very much a continuation of Rome's. There's a reason why the word Renaissance starts with the suffix "re-". It was return to the roots of their own intellectual heritage and a countervalent to the influence of that middle east import called Christianity.

Christianity was born in Roman territory, and is a completely Roman religion. And Italians were Catholic, which is more Italian than than the semi-Greek pagan religion of the late Republic.

 

[civ_king]

While it's certain that discrimination against Catholics did exist, I'm not aware of any laws against being Catholic. Unless you have a link to back that up or the name of such a law and which state (or federal government) enacted it?



Italy didn't switch to a democracy because of America. They abandoned the monarchy because of its support of fascism after Mussolini had been discredited. And, of course, it was a constitutional monarchy because most nationalistic movements started off as democratic movements before monarchs (Victor Emmanuel II and Wilhelm I) took advantage of the situation.

However, the 1646 defeat of the Royalists in the English Civil War led to stringent laws against Catholic education and the extradition of known Jesuits from the colony, including Andrew White, and the destruction of their school at Calverton Manor.[2] During the greater part of the Maryland colonial period, Jesuits continued to conduct Catholic schools clandestinely.

taking their education?

Maryland was a rare example of religious toleration in a fairly intolerant age, particularly amongst other English colonies which frequently exhibited a quite militant Protestantism. The Maryland Toleration Act, issued in 1649, was one of the first laws that explicitly defined tolerance of varieties of religion (as long as it was Christian). It has been considered a precursor to the First Amendment.

If something's rare then the converse is common

In 1650, the Puritans revolted against the proprietary government and set up a new government that outlawed both Catholicism and Anglicanism.

Monsignor John Tracy Ellis wrote that a "universal anti-Catholic bias was brought to Jamestown in 1607 and vigorously cultivated in all the thirteen colonies from Massachusetts to Georgia."[3] Colonial charters and laws contained specific proscriptions against Roman Catholics. Monsignor Ellis noted that a common hatred of Catholics in general could unite Anglican clerics and Puritan ministers despite their differences and conflicts.

the Colony of Virginia enacted a law prohibiting Catholic settlers

In 1649 the Act of Toleration was passed, where "blasphemy and the calling of opprobrious religious names" became punishable offenses, but it was repealed in 1654 and thus outlawing Catholics once again. Puritans condemned ten Catholics to death and plundered the property of the Jesuits. By 1692, Maryland had become a royal colony, the Church of England was established by law, and Catholics were compelled to pay taxes for its support. They were cut off from all participation in public life and additional laws were introduced that forbid religious services and Catholic schools.

Anti-Catholic animus in the United States reached a peak in the nineteenth century when the Protestant population became alarmed by the influx of Catholic immigrants. Fearing the end of time, some American Protestants who believed they were God's chosen people, claimed that the Catholic Church was the Whore of Babylon in the Book of Revelation

The resulting "nativist" movement, which achieved prominence in the 1840s, was whipped into a frenzy of anti-Catholicism that led to mob violence, the burning of Catholic property, and the killing of Catholics

Anti-Catholicism was widespread in the 1920s; anti-Catholics, including the Ku Klux Klan, believed that Catholicism was incompatible with democracy and that parochial schools encouraged separatism and kept Catholics from becoming loyal Americans

A key factor that hurt John F. Kennedy in his 1960 campaign for the presidency of the United States was the widespread prejudice against his Roman Catholic religion; some Protestants believed that, if he were elected President, Kennedy would have to take orders from the Pope in Rome

Have I successfully proved that Catholics weren't liked much?