Will computers and the internet end the need for urbanization?

Originally posted by Knowltok
[Tiredly] What is it you find disgusting about a suburban Starbucks?

[Tiredly] What? Well, the whole idea destroys the point, really.

It's like holding a big band concert at the farm, or wearing s***kickers to the opera, or playing Japan to get a diplomatic victory. It just doesn't make any sense. Counterintuitive. Depreciates brand value. That's all.

Doesn't seem that farfetched a reaction to me.
 
In direct response to the Topic, I don't see any "need" for Urbanization right now. People live wherever they want: cities, towns, suburbs, farms, etc.
 
The point of Starbucks - which speaks directly to the topic - is that you get to pay $2.00 CDN for the same cup of coffee that costs you $1.00 CDN at a Tim Horton's! You pay more, and in return, you get shade-grown coffee options, beautiful pacific northwest green and brown hues, and the best yuppy chick sightings you'll ever see at 8:38am on a Monday morning!

It's the urban experience, man!

P.S. Knowltok, how about those kooks in the nazi threads? Is it time for a civfanatice anti-defamation league or what? :rolleyes: Good god.
 
Originally posted by Richard III
The point of Starbucks - which speaks directly to the topic - is that you get to pay $2.00 CDN for the same cup of coffee that costs you $1.00 CDN at a Tim Horton's! You pay more, and in return, you get shade-grown coffee options, beautiful pacific northwest green and brown hues, and the best yuppy chick sightings you'll ever see at 8:38am on a Monday morning!

It's the urban experience, man!

P.S. Knowltok, how about those kooks in the nazi threads? Is it time for a civfanatice anti-defamation league or what? :rolleyes: Good god.

Ah, but why can't a suburban starbucks (never actually been in one) give roughly the same experience? I wouldn't go to one to find yuppy chicks, but that does not mean that there wouldn't be other kinds of chicks there. Time frames can differ of course.

Is it perhaps the false bait of a suburban Starbucks that discusts you? Are you drawn to a Starbucks like Pavlov's dog expecting to find yuppy chicks, and then disappointed when you discover that this isn't that type of Starbucks? I can well imagine the shock could near overwhelm a man. ;)

As far as that other thread, I haven't checked it this morning, but I am surprised it was allowed to continue. I view that thread as little more than a troll, but that is just my opinion.
 
Originally posted by Knowltok
Is it perhaps the false bait of a suburban Starbucks that discusts you? Are you drawn to a Starbucks like Pavlov's dog expecting to find yuppy chicks, and then disappointed when you discover that this isn't that type of Starbucks? I can well imagine the shock could near overwhelm a man. ;)

Well put. I think you have ended the debate right there. You are exactly right: it's the false bait. You walk in, and suddenly, instead of single folks and young couples, you find - omigod - families. It's a beating, I tell ya.

Although I've only done it once. Never again.
 
It IS a crying shame that those families can't stay under their respective rocks. Anyone with any common sense at all should realize that Starbucks and other coffee houses are not an appropriate place for families. I mean, don't these people realize that designer coffees are the provence of the young and hip? Are they in some kind of mid-life crisis or something? Can't they see that this pathetic attempt to recapture youth is transparent for all to see?

I am starting to understand your disgust R3. These people should exercise a little social responsibility for Bob's sake! What do they want to do, make Starbucks uncool, forcing young people back into bars and nightclubs? Is it not bad enough that these irresponsible 'families' are allowing their children to read the evils of Harry Potter? Do they also have to destroy a youth meeting place that doesn't involve alcohol? Have they no consideration for how their actions affect others? :mad:

If the youth of today weren't the product of these same bankrupt families, I'm sure we could have a sixtiesesque movement to 'Take Back the Starbucks!' :goodjob: Ultimately this is just another sign of the decline of western civilization.:(


On a side note, Toe Cutter is gone!!! Wee!!!:)
 
Originally posted by Knowltok
It IS a crying shame that those families can't stay under their respective rocks. Anyone with any common sense at all should realize that Starbucks and other coffee houses are not an appropriate place for families

On a side note, Toe Cutter is gone!!! Wee!!!:)

I'm glad you see my point. I mean, isn't it obvious? Starbucks was to the late 1990s what discotheques were to the late '70s, and drive-in burger joints to the late 1950s. How can they take that away from us.

And on a side note, the tide has turned! Fascism has been driven from our shores!

This side: Civfanatics This side: Toecutter

:slay:
 
Originally posted by Richard III


I'm glad you see my point. I mean, isn't it obvious? Starbucks was to the late 1990s what discotheques were to the late '70s, and drive-in burger joints to the late 1950s. How can they take that away from us.


To borrow from another thread: I guess it is just evolution forcing you to adapt.;) Pretty soon something else will fill the gap. You'll go there, find a wife, settle down, have a kid and keep going in a desperate attempt to hang onto your youth. Then young people will rail at you for destroying their equivilent of Starbucks in the late '90's.

Feel free to say that you aren't the marrying type if you want, but then I get to paint an even more dismal picture:D
 
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