labellavienna
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Just wondering....
Maybe I'm heretic, but I'd be fine with lack of Carthago at all in Civ6 ever, addons and DLCs included.
With all respect towards Carthaginian civilization, I feel they are in as "token enemy of Rome" (similarly to Boudicca and Huns) and Western popcultural version of history (where anything happening to Western or "Western" civs has bigger weight than major events of other areas history), and there are far more interesting/exotic/unique less known civilisations that could take place of Carthago, one trick pony "merchant sea civ", and more
Generally I'd be fine with lack of Carthago, Celts, Dutch, Denmark, Austria, Venice and Huns in civ6
Maybe I'm heretic, but I'd be fine with lack of Carthago at all in Civ6 ever, addons and DLCs included.
With all respect towards Carthaginian civilization, I feel they are in as "token enemy of Rome" (similarly to Boudicca and Huns) and Western popcultural version of history (where anything happening to Western or "Western" civs has bigger weight than major events of other areas history), and there are far more interesting/exotic/unique less known civilisations that could take place of Carthago, one trick pony "merchant sea civ".
Hannibal was pretty good military commander (though failed at logistics and strategic use of tactical victories, before being completely annihilated by Scipio in Zama ) but he wouldn't be that interesting leader in civ6 reality where "unique personality", "diplomatic agenda" and "unique approach to the game" matter much more than "good achievements of military general". He'd essentially be one more "lol much army" guy of "lol money and sea" civ.
Generally I'd be fine with lack of Carthago, Celts, Dutch, Denmark, Austria, Venice and Huns in civ6
In the sense of switching it up, they could include them as the Phoenicians in a expansion or two Carthage in and itself is fine, "ok", but not much more.
Maybe I'm heretic, but I'd be fine with lack of Carthago at all in Civ6 ever, addons and DLCs included.
With all respect towards Carthaginian civilization, I feel they are in as "token enemy of Rome" (similarly to Boudicca and Huns) and Western popcultural version of history (where anything happening to Western or "Western" civs has bigger weight than major events of other areas history), and there are far more interesting/exotic/unique less known civilisations that could take place of Carthago, one trick pony "merchant sea civ".
Hannibal was pretty good military commander (though failed at logistics and strategic use of tactical victories, before being completely annihilated by Scipio in Zama ) but he wouldn't be that interesting leader in civ6 reality where "unique personality", "diplomatic agenda" and "unique approach to the game" matter much more than "good achievements of military general". He'd essentially be one more "lol much army" guy of "lol money and sea" civ.
Generally I'd be fine with lack of Carthago, Celts, Dutch, Denmark, Austria, Venice and Huns in civ6
In the sense of switching it up, they could include them as the Phoenicians in a expansion or two Carthage in and itself is fine, "ok", but not much more.
Maybe I'm heretic, but I'd be fine with lack of Carthago at all in Civ6 ever, addons and DLCs included.
With all respect towards Carthaginian civilization, I feel they are in as "token enemy of Rome" (similarly to Boudicca and Huns) and Western popcultural version of history (where anything happening to Western or "Western" civs has bigger weight than major events of other areas history), and there are far more interesting/exotic/unique less known civilisations that could take place of Carthago, one trick pony "merchant sea civ".
Hannibal was pretty good military commander (though failed at logistics and strategic use of tactical victories, before being completely annihilated by Scipio in Zama ) but he wouldn't be that interesting leader in civ6 reality where "unique personality", "diplomatic agenda" and "unique approach to the game" matter much more than "good achievements of military general". He'd essentially be one more "lol much army" guy of "lol money and sea" civ.
Generally I'd be fine with lack of Carthago, Celts, Dutch, Denmark, Austria, Venice and Huns in civ6
In the sense of switching it up, they could include them as the Phoenicians in a expansion or two Carthage in and itself is fine, "ok", but not much more.
That's true, I would be down with the Phoenicians as one of the classical ancient civs.
I like Carthage because I'm always happy for more ancient civilizations (personally would love it if Civ allowed you to specify your ending era and have a full ancient game...would never touch any other mode personally).
But Phoenicia certainly "deserves" the place moreso than Carthage, for sure. Far more important in the long run. Carthage is ultimately just important as a foil for Rome.
Generally I'd be fine with lack of Carthago, Celts, Dutch, Denmark, Austria, Venice and Huns in civ6