Word "slave" in English should be uprooted.

Should word "slave" be uprooted?


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Squonk

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As we've already established, word "slave" in English comes from Slavs.

(Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, Czechs, Belarusians, Bulgarians, Serbs and Montenegryns, Croats, Bosnians, Slovakians, Slovenians, Macedonians, Rusyns and Lausitz people are all Slavs).

It comes from the times prior to the baptism of Slavs in IX and X century, when Jewish and Venetian merchants were selling Slavs en masse as slaves esp. to the Muslim world (esp. islamic Spain and North Africa, but also Egypt and Iraq). The mistreated Slavs were often castrated (that's how the city of Czech Prague rose to eminence - as the center of castration of slaves) to such an extent, that in Arabic "Slavs" ("Saqaliba") were sometimes used as a synonym of eunuchs.

I think existance of such a name is offensive for all the nations mentioned and thus should be uprooted from English language. It perpetuates the idea of Slavic subhumanness that existed in Western European countries even before. In some German cities, up to XIX century no Slav could be a citizen, and even in XIX century German scientists coined a proverb "Slavica non leguntur" ("Texts by Slavic authors should not be read"). This paved a way for Hitler's politics who wanted to create his lebensraum in Slavic countries - especially Poland, but also Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.

The existance of anti-Slavic tendencies in Western culture is often neglected, because Slavs are part of the same civilisation. They are "ours", but worse kind of "ours". But it makes it easier to attack them, because it is not seen as racism, while similar remarks directed towards Jews, Pakistanis etc would be impossible.

This allowed anti-Polish rhetorics of Farage and even Cameron.

The use of word slave is only a symbol of this internalised feeling of disdain towards Slavic peoples and superiority that exists in some western countries.

Discuss.
 
You know, few people ever make the connection between Slav and Slave. Would it not be for WH, I would also be blissfully unaware of that, either.
 
I don't mind it, to be honest, because I didn't even know where that term comes from until somebody mentioned it on here. I doubt more than a handful of people make this association when the word "slave" is used.

Germanic & Anglo-Saxon privilege aside, I think we can let this one slide.
 
I think everybody needs to calm the F down about words. That's the kind of political correctness that really gets on my nerves.
What's next ? Will slavic languages have to change their names for Germans because it's derogatory and ableist ?
 
I find English spelling to be not just politically incorrect, but wrong in general. Clearly, they're long overdue for a total change.
 
I think everybody needs to calm the F down about words. That's the kind of political correctness that really gets on my nerves.
What's next ? Will slavic languages have to change their names for Germans because it's derogatory and ableist ?

This thread is satire of what you're complaining about, I believe. But don't take my word for it.
 
Squonk said:
and even in XIX century German scientists coined a proverb "Slavica non leguntur" ("Texts by Slavic authors should not be read"). This paved a way for Hitler's politics who wanted to create his lebensraum in Slavic countries - especially Poland, but also Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.

The existance of anti-Slavic tendencies in Western culture is often neglected, because Slavs are part of the same civilisation.

Actually the idea of Lebensraum was justified by another claim - that Slavs are allegedly not native anywhere. That they all came from the small region of Pripyat Marshes and in all other areas they are just aliens who stole the land from someone else - like for example from East Germanic tribes. Hitler even wanted to expell Slavs to Asia as he believed that they were immigrants from Asia who had first come to Pripyat Marshes, and then spread from there farther.

Funnily enough, modern genetic research of ancient DNA indicates the opposite - these are Germans who are less indigenous to Europe than Slavs.
 
This thread is satire of what you're complaining about, I believe. But don't take my word for it.

It looks sincere enough not to be satire, in my opinion.


I was wondering, but it's really impossible to tell.
And the Slav (and especially the Pole) with a persecution complex is a not entirely unjustified stereotype.
 
I find English spelling to be not just politically incorrect, but wrong in general. Clearly, they're long overdue for a total change.

Good luck trying to control the English Language.
 
And here I hoped at least one Russian, Ukrainian or Belarusian would post in this thread befor a non-Slav butts in. :(
 
And here I hoped at least one Russian, Ukrainian or Belarusian would post in this thread befor a non-Slav butts in. :(

Well sorry

So let my cultural heritage impose itself on the english language. Say "thrall" instead of "slave"
 
Good luck trying to control the English Language.

Everything about the English language makes perfect sense once you realize that it's a pidgin dialect with delusions of grandeur.
 
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