World History Mod development thread
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kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
American Civil War Mod* Me and Shiggs have been able to play it with no crashes. Make sure you are running BTS 3.19 with nothing in customassets folder.
Let me know if you are still having trouble, though beyond that, unless something's been changed, it should be working
Let me know if you are still having trouble, though beyond that, unless something's been changed, it should be working
Shiggs713
Immortal
yup it works fine till i mess with the python lol.... it'll be fixed soon. My desktop is ridiculous right now from having all these backup copies, art folders, working folders ect..., 1024x768 and nearly completely cluttered with icons.
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
Sorry for the lag; I am becoming really busy. REALLY busy and stressed out. But I will make it my personal duty to make sure I accomplish something with this.
Right now I am on one-week vacation (without my super-nice computer). So I will try to get my 3ds Max 2008 license issues fixed. If I can become capable of converting unit art, a summer release is very likely. I am reluctant to release an inferior product.
There have been numerous improvements to map technology (mostly because I was working on Shigg's map). However still no approaching map release because I do not yet have the assistance of a graphics expert to make wintermod perform better.
@Krug: I am really sorry that I haven't posted in a while- I think it is safest to say that I will pm you when I have either figured out how to convert units or when I have finished the "easy" remaining unit graphics (in which case I will send you the graphics that are done at that point). The latter should not take long but I want to have a better try at conversion first. That alone would be a massive contribution to this site.
Right now I am on one-week vacation (without my super-nice computer). So I will try to get my 3ds Max 2008 license issues fixed. If I can become capable of converting unit art, a summer release is very likely. I am reluctant to release an inferior product.
There have been numerous improvements to map technology (mostly because I was working on Shigg's map). However still no approaching map release because I do not yet have the assistance of a graphics expert to make wintermod perform better.
@Krug: I am really sorry that I haven't posted in a while- I think it is safest to say that I will pm you when I have either figured out how to convert units or when I have finished the "easy" remaining unit graphics (in which case I will send you the graphics that are done at that point). The latter should not take long but I want to have a better try at conversion first. That alone would be a massive contribution to this site.
Grishnash
Mad Scientist
Sorry for the inactivity, but things have been busy. And yes, Kevin, I have Excel... Macs rule. Anything you can do I can do better!
Now... There is something I think you should know, (If you don't already) and that is that your forum (Civjunction) is GONE!!! .....
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This may just be a sad... Sad day.
Unless of course the posts on the forum somehow got saved which I doubt but hey
Anyways, hope things are coming along, can't wait for *any* release
Now... There is something I think you should know, (If you don't already) and that is that your forum (Civjunction) is GONE!!! .....
...
This may just be a sad... Sad day.
Unless of course the posts on the forum somehow got saved which I doubt but hey
Anyways, hope things are coming along, can't wait for *any* release
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
That is REALLY bad news... but I can scrounge up most of my research (scattered throughout this thread). Really unexpected, but then again other than my/your occasional posts the site was completely dead
I really hope you have your stuff saved on your computer... you worked so hard on it...
Kevin
I really hope you have your stuff saved on your computer... you worked so hard on it...
Kevin
Shiggs713
Immortal
need to release something soon or its all for not, civ5 coming in less than a year.
Grishnash
Mad Scientist
Most of my work is saved on my comp, thank goodness! They should at least warned us.
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Now, Kevinman, I'd hate to put pressure on you, but I have to put pressure on you to make a release before the "ALL AWESOME JAW DROPPING SO GOING TO BUY" Civilization V come out in the fall.
Good Luck, I think now more then ever, you need it 
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Now, Kevinman, I'd hate to put pressure on you, but I have to put pressure on you to make a release before the "ALL AWESOME JAW DROPPING SO GOING TO BUY" Civilization V come out in the fall.
Good Luck, I think now more then ever, you need it
Grishnash
Mad Scientist
Double post...
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
Not to worry, my stuff will either be ported over or its stuff will be ported over to civ4. And if they decide to give modders a hard time someone will figure out a way.
I am determined to release something this summer
I'll look into a new forum (preferrably without expiry, but people should post once in a while anyways!)
Kevin
I am determined to release something this summer
I'll look into a new forum (preferrably without expiry, but people should post once in a while anyways!)
Kevin
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
and i like history so much that I'm not genuinely interested in Civ5, I am mainly interested because of the modding resources it will provide. I really wish they would take a more historical/realistic approach, but either way they won't satisfy everyone
(can't edit posts... weak internet)
(can't edit posts... weak internet)
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
Well, I was distracted over reading week, sooo
New order of business:
0.5) war map template
1) clean up mod of all unneccessary stuff, make sure mod can start up with no errors
2) find new forum, make things more organized and better than they were before
2) bring over RFC engine, make sure civs can rise/fall with no problems
3) fix 3dsmax2k8 license issues (2 weeks from now)
4) artwork artwork artwork
@GeneralSpecific Civics are needed anytime... I don't care when you post them but make sure they are posted and discussed by early summer please
I will have a new forum for specific discussion soon
thanks!
Kevin
New order of business:
0.5) war map template
1) clean up mod of all unneccessary stuff, make sure mod can start up with no errors
2) find new forum, make things more organized and better than they were before
2) bring over RFC engine, make sure civs can rise/fall with no problems
3) fix 3dsmax2k8 license issues (2 weeks from now)
4) artwork artwork artwork
@GeneralSpecific Civics are needed anytime... I don't care when you post them but make sure they are posted and discussed by early summer please
I will have a new forum for specific discussion soon
thanks!
Kevin
Shiggs713
Immortal
yea same here, I wish they took a more realistic approach. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read, over there in the ciV forum, that many people actually liked the cartoony look of everything.
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
Yeah, I don't believe people like that- so crazy!
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WAR MAPS (finally!)... it turns out the numbers don't matter too much. So I will use a flexible schema:
First, what is a war map? Well, as I understand it, it dictates areas where your wants to attack/invade. So we will use this for three things: a) to take cities from other civs, b) to lower relations with another civ due to border tensions, c) simply to attack an area, ie to get France to invade London
Try to only loosely follow the guidelines below. It really is a scale from 1 to 10. This is just to let you know the right kind of colour emphasis to give different regions until you get used to it. I have included France as an example.
For very complex maps, such as for France, you may use all numbers.
For simpler civs, use just even numbers, with the addition of 9. You may make it even simpler and leave out more numbers. However do not do something in between these two ideas, please. You can always post if you are having difficulty
2. LIGHT GREEN: bare interest, kind of like "what-if" lands or small scuffles
3. TAN: bridge between 2 and 4
4. GOLD: really unimportant areas that were sort-of-owned
5. LIGHT ORANGE: unimportant areas owned briefly
6. ORANGE: more important areas owned briefly
7. ROSE: areas owned for a while and/or much desired and/or really want to attack
8. RED: part of modern-day country but not as important as higher #s etc.
9. DARK RED: core region (looks like blood red, in first column)
10. YELLOW: capital region; defend with your life
note: the #s here are just for reference. Do not worry about them. All you need to do is fill in the colours
Attached are both the settler and war map templates, in one package
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WAR MAPS (finally!)... it turns out the numbers don't matter too much. So I will use a flexible schema:
First, what is a war map? Well, as I understand it, it dictates areas where your wants to attack/invade. So we will use this for three things: a) to take cities from other civs, b) to lower relations with another civ due to border tensions, c) simply to attack an area, ie to get France to invade London
Try to only loosely follow the guidelines below. It really is a scale from 1 to 10. This is just to let you know the right kind of colour emphasis to give different regions until you get used to it. I have included France as an example.
For very complex maps, such as for France, you may use all numbers.
For simpler civs, use just even numbers, with the addition of 9. You may make it even simpler and leave out more numbers. However do not do something in between these two ideas, please. You can always post if you are having difficulty
2. LIGHT GREEN: bare interest, kind of like "what-if" lands or small scuffles
3. TAN: bridge between 2 and 4
4. GOLD: really unimportant areas that were sort-of-owned
5. LIGHT ORANGE: unimportant areas owned briefly
6. ORANGE: more important areas owned briefly
7. ROSE: areas owned for a while and/or much desired and/or really want to attack
8. RED: part of modern-day country but not as important as higher #s etc.
9. DARK RED: core region (looks like blood red, in first column)
10. YELLOW: capital region; defend with your life
note: the #s here are just for reference. Do not worry about them. All you need to do is fill in the colours
Attached are both the settler and war map templates, in one package
Yeah the settler/war maps. The most important part in this mod as in RFC in my mind. This is where we are going to make history....
I'll try to have a go at this. By the way where did civjunction go. Your 'World History Mod Forum'-link says it has been moved? So where do I find which civ there shall be made maps for?
I'll try to have a go at this. By the way where did civjunction go. Your 'World History Mod Forum'-link says it has been moved? So where do I find which civ there shall be made maps for?
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
I REALLY have to run, but I have found a new forum, and I am moving stuff there. I will try to rebuild the civ lists. However, I will not do this for Asia until we are working on that continent. That took a long time to do originally.
Civ lists up tonight
Kevin
Civ lists up tonight
Kevin
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
Okay, civ lists for N/S America, Europe and Africa are up. They are not final but are at least 95% where they should be.
The new forum has just barely started being constructed, but it will be located here (you might have to register)
worldhistorymod.freeforums.org
@Grishnash: please check the African civ list. The list came from a source on my computer. It is not the latest; there were some changes I had made based on your reccomendations. Please let me know what these were! When you are ready, feel free to make a new African thinktank thread, in civs category.
The new forum has just barely started being constructed, but it will be located here (you might have to register)
worldhistorymod.freeforums.org
@Grishnash: please check the African civ list. The list came from a source on my computer. It is not the latest; there were some changes I had made based on your reccomendations. Please let me know what these were! When you are ready, feel free to make a new African thinktank thread, in civs category.
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
I have still not gotten around/gotten the chance to try out the conversion 
I have completed a couple more units (art) not requiring conversion
I have also updated some more of the new forum to bring it closer to where it was before (with some cleanups)
Any updates from you guys?
I have been very busy helping Shiggs with his mod, which I encourage you all to try, when it comes out! And if it doesn't come out, bug him endlessly, because my time working on this has been mostly spent on that. It shall be a very nice mod
Kevin
I have completed a couple more units (art) not requiring conversion
I have also updated some more of the new forum to bring it closer to where it was before (with some cleanups)
Any updates from you guys?
I have been very busy helping Shiggs with his mod, which I encourage you all to try, when it comes out! And if it doesn't come out, bug him endlessly, because my time working on this has been mostly spent on that.
It shall be a very nice modKevin
Shiggs713
Immortal
it will come out. As you have noticed there hasn't been much activity... Its been pretty nice here where I live, I've been going out and being more active, and working more. I've been cheating too, playing some rct3, with no mods its a pretty silly game... everything looks fake, but I've got like 20k custom scenery objects and can make virtually anything structure wise, so its pretty cool. But anyways, it will be longer than I said, but I'll continue work on it and it will be released at some point, hopefully before civ5. Looking forward to your mod as well 
Shiggs
Shiggs
kevinman4404
Lightning Warrior
@Shiggs: ok
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I am working hard setting up all base (European) units off of which everything else is based
I am also finalizing Inca units/art. And while that may not seem like much, that is one of only 5 new-world base-civs. Others are close to being done too.
I will post massive pics of both soon.
Hope noone thinks this will never fruition; it will, I'm just very patient, and if civ5 goes the route that brainwashed people want it to go, then it will be no less desirable.
(not to mention I will port as much as I can from civ5)
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I am working hard setting up all base (European) units off of which everything else is based
I am also finalizing Inca units/art. And while that may not seem like much, that is one of only 5 new-world base-civs. Others are close to being done too.
I will post massive pics of both soon.
Hope noone thinks this will never fruition; it will, I'm just very patient, and if civ5 goes the route that brainwashed people want it to go, then it will be no less desirable.
(not to mention I will port as much as I can from civ5)
