Would dividing the forum into casual and advanced be useful?

[Rvil Plum]

I played Europa Universalis, Close Combat and Master of Orion and my experience was that Civ was far more complex than those games. I can't comment on the other games in your list, because I have not played them, but perhaps someone else has and could add their thoughts.

If there is a great civ beating game out there then I would love to play it.

The reason I think Civ is more complex, relates to how it plays on the highest difficulty levels. It just won't give you an inch of room, and you really do have to scratch your head to stay alive, let alone win such a game.

Regards - Mr P

 

[KMadCandy]

Sorry I didn't mean to imply that people would be prevented from posting in in either section, I just assumed that advanced players would continue to give ideas / advice where appropriate to players in the casual section, and therefore be posting in both sections, but that casual players would be naturally reluctant to post in the advanced section, unless they had something relevant to say.

a major reason for your proposal, if i'm reading it right, is that you and others have limited time to read the forums. that is indeed true. but, it also applies to those that you're assuming would help out in the casual section but not really learn anything there themselves. if the division is sharper and easy to tell before entering a forum at all, those "experts" (for lack of a better term) might not read the lower-level forum. they'd never stumble upon a post and reply with great advice like they do now. so i really wouldn't bet that your assumption would work out as well as you hope.

i'm coming at this with a bias from when i used to play WoW. i raided a lot a bit more than a year ago, but i was in a casual guild. we didn't have purely level 60s in it, to raid we had to group up with other guilds. because our own guild varied so much in levels, no matter which character we were playing, we had guildchat to talk in. we had people brand new to the game who learned a lot from those who'd been around a while, and i'd learn things all the time even from people 1/4 my level. some guilds in WoW are set up hard-core, only level 60s are allowed to join (well, 70 now i guess but whatever). all lower-level alts are in a different guild. that means those people aren't available on guildchat at all when playing their 60s. even when they're not busy raiding, they're just sitting around the auctionhouse with plenty of time to talk, the avenue is missing. they can only share their knowledge with the lower-levels when they're logged on as an alt.

CFC is set up like a casual guild now, not a hard-core raiding guild. i like it that way.

i'm also biased relative to the last line i quoted. "casual players would be naturally reluctant to post in the advanced section, unless they had something relevant to say." i don't have a natural reluctance to post when i don't have anything relevant to say. added bonus, i ask questions a lot, even if i know they'll sound dumb, because i'm not ashamed of my permanoob status. if i had a GPP for every CFC member i've annoyed that way, i could probably live in a permanent golden age .

 

[Osama Bin Davis]

I played Europa Universalis, Close Combat and Master of Orion and my experience was that Civ was far more complex than those games. I can't comment on the other games in your list, because I have not played them, but perhaps someone else has and could add their thoughts.

If there is a great civ beating game out there then I would love to play it.

The reason I think Civ is more complex, relates to how it plays on the highest difficulty levels. It just won't give you an inch of room, and you really do have to scratch your head to stay alive, let alone win such a game.

Regards - Mr P

For what it is Civ is the best game out there. I just dont agree its the most complex.

If you have beaten Master Of Orion, Europa Universalis and Close Combat on the highest difficulty, I commend you, you must be a better player of those than I am.

If you ever get a chance I'd really recommend the other games to you all great games, especially if you like lots of thinking.

While you and I will never agree about civ's complexity I am sure we can both agree thats its one hell of a game.

 

[.Shane.]

I appreciate the thought and idea behind the OP, but I don't think its necessary if people follow some basic ideas when the post. For example point out what level you play on, what map type, etc... when asking questions or for help.

 

[thelibra]

So - for the more "uneducated" of us here (at least when it comes to online slang) can you translate 13375 and n0065? I am assuming that n0065 is noob...

Heh, yeah. 13376 = "Leets", as in "Elite Players", the ones that write the guides and such in the war academy, and regularly achieve an Emperor level win.

n0065 = "Noobs" or Newbies, those whom are still figuring out the strategies necessary to win on Noble.

I'm in between those two categories, hence why I don't want to see my choice of discussions to have to be between one or the other.