WarKirby
Arty person
Good question. Why not post it in the lore forum?
I seem to remember reading somewhere that he belongs to Camulos, not Aeron. Wrath is a more camulos-oriented thing, since as far as I'm aware, aeron is more cold and calculating.
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Good question. Why not post it in the lore forum?
I seem to remember reading somewhere that he belongs to Camulos, not Aeron. Wrath is a more camulos-oriented thing, since as far as I'm aware, aeron is more cold and calculating.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
The Avatar of Wrath is Camullos' archangel. (Previously he was a manifestation of collective fear and anger, like the 4 hordemen are manifestations of the gods fears.)
Aeron's archangel is Odio, who can appropriately still be found in Odio's Prison. (In my version, he can also be freed from his prison after you learn Rage. Runemasters can however have him pulled back back in to the Earth.)
Aeron is cold and calculating, but Odio is best known for going on a rampage, defying Aeron's order to cease fire. Odio and the Avatar of Wrath seem fairly similar, and probably got along quite well. Odio was leading an army of Ira when he was pulled into the earth by Kilmorph, and the Avatar of Wrath leads the Ira now.
Aeron's archangel is Odio, who can appropriately still be found in Odio's Prison. (In my version, he can also be freed from his prison after you learn Rage. Runemasters can however have him pulled back back in to the Earth.)
Aeron is cold and calculating, but Odio is best known for going on a rampage, defying Aeron's order to cease fire. Odio and the Avatar of Wrath seem fairly similar, and probably got along quite well. Odio was leading an army of Ira when he was pulled into the earth by Kilmorph, and the Avatar of Wrath leads the Ira now.
WarKirby
Arty person
Monstrous Creatures Module v1.0 is out. Go check the first post!
Brokenbone
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Square in "dumb question" territory, but I grabbed the zip of v 1.0, and am a little baffled into which folders each of the items ought be extracted. Some seem to be art, lots are xml, I don't have a decent enough grip on the directory structure to know where to put things (I blame being spoiled by self extracting installer exe's!).
Thanks for any aid.
Thanks for any aid.
WarKirby
Arty person
Hi.
It's a module. You don't have to put individual items anywhere. You just put the entire folder, as is, under Assets/Modules.
Instructions for installing a module are here:http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=318813
Be advised that monstrous creatures WILL break pre-existing savegames though. Because it adds new promotions, which savegames don't like
It's a module. You don't have to put individual items anywhere. You just put the entire folder, as is, under Assets/Modules.
Instructions for installing a module are here:http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=318813
Be advised that monstrous creatures WILL break pre-existing savegames though. Because it adds new promotions, which savegames don't like
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Not noticing the promotion problem at all.... Have you already fixed it?
WarKirby
Arty person
umm, nope.
maybe it only occurs for me?
maybe it only occurs for me?
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
well, that's odd...... I have the same file names, they're just in a new folder now. They're all working fine though.
WarKirby
Arty person
You've incorporated it into FF plus?
if so, that might explain it. I'm suspectng that the issue was something to do with it being a module.
if so, that might explain it. I'm suspectng that the issue was something to do with it being a module.
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Yes, yes I have. Needed to in order to make Goliath as strong as I wanted to. 
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Mechanos in FFPlus. He's also in the Orbis version, but is..... smaller. 
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
People have released art for Odio before, but I personally think that a reskinned and oversized Repentant Angel would fit him better.
WarKirby
Arty person
Reskinned how? What things would have to be changed?
Also, what way would be best for Odio to enter the world? Some sort of spell cast on Odio's Prison ?
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Probably something along the lines of Brigit, with Odio for evil and Brigit for good. Would either have to have something for the neutrals, or allow them one or the other.
WarKirby
Arty person
hmm, I'd disagree there personally. I'm of the viewpoint that brigit would serve anyone who freed her, preferring to work for evil than remain trapped for eternity.
As I understand, Odio is archangel of the body sphere, and was contained for refusing to stop fighting. So generally, it makes sense that he'd only care about killing things, and probably assist whoever allows him to do so.
I like the idea of being able to control both at once, personally
As I understand, Odio is archangel of the body sphere, and was contained for refusing to stop fighting. So generally, it makes sense that he'd only care about killing things, and probably assist whoever allows him to do so.
I like the idea of being able to control both at once, personally
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Repentant Angels actually look a lot like how I picture Odio, and might not really need much reskinning. I haven't looked at the model lately (and don't have time to now, as I'm up trying finish my Structural Analysis homework and only online to break the monotony to try to stay awake), but the only thing that really comes to mind is that the little bit of white cloth should probably be a different color. You might want more changes too though, so it is easier to tell the units apart without having to make him so much bigger that he makes nearby units hard to select. I could see Odio having a less natural skin town, maybe a dark shade of purple or something close to the gray color he looks in statue form.
Currently in my version I have a spell called Unleash Odio that any unit can cast on the tile once the owner knows Rage. I used to have this kill the caster and summon Odio in XML, but I decided against letting Odio get the summon perks of the unit that freed him and I found myself always sending a cheap expendable unit to summon him and figured I might as well get rid of that too. Since python was needed to remove Odio's Prison (and the body mana in contains in my version, and FF too I believe), I figured I might as well create Odio there too. I gave it a really high AI weight, and so I find that an AI almost always gets Odio before I can.
My Odio has Demon, Hero, Crazed, Fear, Aeron's Chosen, March, Water Walking, Blitz, Body 2, and Chaos 2. He also gains Enraged from combat (with living units), so while it is pretty easy to get him he is very hard to actually control. He has 2 moves, strength 6/1 + 4 Unholy + 2 Poison + 2 Body affinity. (My Brigit is stronger than normal too.)
I also created another spell, Bury Hatred, that does the opposite of Unleash Odio; if a Runekeeper can get within range of Odio, he can use the power of Kilmorph to draw the demon back into the earth, destroying the unit and creating a new Odio's prison on its tile.
Currently in my version I have a spell called Unleash Odio that any unit can cast on the tile once the owner knows Rage. I used to have this kill the caster and summon Odio in XML, but I decided against letting Odio get the summon perks of the unit that freed him and I found myself always sending a cheap expendable unit to summon him and figured I might as well get rid of that too. Since python was needed to remove Odio's Prison (and the body mana in contains in my version, and FF too I believe), I figured I might as well create Odio there too. I gave it a really high AI weight, and so I find that an AI almost always gets Odio before I can.
My Odio has Demon, Hero, Crazed, Fear, Aeron's Chosen, March, Water Walking, Blitz, Body 2, and Chaos 2. He also gains Enraged from combat (with living units), so while it is pretty easy to get him he is very hard to actually control. He has 2 moves, strength 6/1 + 4 Unholy + 2 Poison + 2 Body affinity. (My Brigit is stronger than normal too.)
I also created another spell, Bury Hatred, that does the opposite of Unleash Odio; if a Runekeeper can get within range of Odio, he can use the power of Kilmorph to draw the demon back into the earth, destroying the unit and creating a new Odio's prison on its tile.
Sorry to revive what may be a dead thread, but I would like to comment on why different dragons should be elementally based (If this has been answered and/or addressed already, forgive me, but I didn't feel like reading 9 pages).
I like the idea of the red dragon being fire based, the gold dragon being holy, and the black dragon being poison.
For those familiar with the wonderful world of Dragonlance, these would be fitting elemental choices for the color of dragons.
After thinking about it further, creating a blue dragon with water/ice elemental strength, a green dragon with poison/acid, etc, would be quite interesting IMO.
4 dragons just doesn't seem like enough to me....but I haven't the slightest clue how to mod and 2 kids, work, AND school won't allow me much time for learning.
Just a random thought, but I do think it's an interesting minimod.
I like the idea of the red dragon being fire based, the gold dragon being holy, and the black dragon being poison.
For those familiar with the wonderful world of Dragonlance, these would be fitting elemental choices for the color of dragons.
After thinking about it further, creating a blue dragon with water/ice elemental strength, a green dragon with poison/acid, etc, would be quite interesting IMO.
4 dragons just doesn't seem like enough to me....but I haven't the slightest clue how to mod and 2 kids, work, AND school won't allow me much time for learning.
Just a random thought, but I do think it's an interesting minimod.
