[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: Eight
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innonimatu
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The few 100% legitimate (per the letter of the laws and conventions) refugees within the EU are now being threatened with deportation into the country they fled from, to be delieved into the hands of the government that wants to use them as expendable cannon fodder, the very thing they fled from.
Poland and Lithuania. Those of the "cheap ukranians to fight Russia.". Unsurprising.
Poland and Lithuania. Those of the "cheap ukranians to fight Russia.". Unsurprising.
Snowygerry
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Poland and Lithuania next in line are next in line as candidates for Russian aggression, Kazachstan in turn may well be the next part of the former Russian empire we will liberate, may even join NATO next century.
There is little mystery to all this.
Russians join the Russian army, like imperialist soldiers have always done, for money or to escape their miserable lfe at home.
For King and country, God wills it
There is little mystery to all this.
Russians join the Russian army, like imperialist soldiers have always done, for money or to escape their miserable lfe at home.
For King and country, God wills it
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saamohod
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The worst part is that a sizeable chunk of them aren't even Russian but belong to other ethnic minorities which some time ago were in turn subjugated by Moscow.
Snowygerry
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That is always the case yes, during the revolt against the Spanish empire here they recruited Italians to fight here against the Flemish rebels, in return they recruited in Wallonia for their army in Italy.
The English preferably recruited the Irish and Scots for overseas duties.
Such are the ways of empire, recruit one minority to suppress another, we did the same in Congo.
The English preferably recruited the Irish and Scots for overseas duties.
Such are the ways of empire, recruit one minority to suppress another, we did the same in Congo.
Comrade Ceasefire
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LOL. "Facts" during a propaganda war.
General Staff: Russia has lost 467,470 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24, 2022
General Staff: Russia has lost 467,470 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24, 2022
This number includes 1,320 casualties Russian forces suffered just over the past day.
The Ukrainians are basically claiming that about 10 Russians have died for eery Ukrainian life lost.
It sounds like they are desperately trying to show they could win, but also that they are suffering casualties and all
that's needed is more money and more materiel.
At the same time...
Ukraine’s army chief reports tactical retreat in east
KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s troops have been forced to make a tactical retreat from three villages in the embattled east, the country’s army chief said Sunday, warning of a worsening battlefield situation as Ukrainian forces wait for much-needed arms from a huge U.S. aid package to reach combat zones.
Col. Gen. Oleksandr Syrskyi reported that Russian forces continue to attack “along the entire front line” of more than 1,000 kilometers (620 miles), with pitched battles raging west of Avdiivka, the eastern city they took in February after a grueling, monthslong fight.
Biden admin isn’t fully convinced Ukraine can win, even with new aid
Despite the time and political capital spent on the $60 billion aid for Ukraine, some Biden administration officials are skeptical it’s enough for Ukraine to win its two-year war with Russia.
Battlefield dynamics have shifted a lot in the last few months, partly because Ukraine ran low on weaponry and ammunition while Congress debated authorizing more aid, according to three U.S. officials, all granted anonymity to detail sensitive internal thinking. During that period, Ukraine struggled to maintain eastern territory, though Russia didn’t make significant gains, either.
Russia maintains a manpower and weapons advantage, and it would take a lot to reverse months and years of territorial losses. U.S. officials also ask questions about Ukraine’s own tactics and priorities, especially after Kyiv’s counteroffensive failed, sapping forces of materiel and morale.
And that's before the end of rasputitsa, which only has a month or at most two to go.
Also: Russia has electricity. Ukraine not so much. Doesn't sound like Ukraine is "winning" to me, no matter what the propaganda merchants are spreading.
Thorgalaeg
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"LoL facts" in then proceed to post an opinion article and claim Russia is winning. You put the LoL on yourself.
These are facts:
These are facts:
Lexicus
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"LoL facts" in then proceed to post an opinion article and claim Russia is winning. You put the LoL on yourself.
These are facts:
An inventory Russian equipment losses hardly refutes the claim that Russia is winning the war.
Thorgalaeg
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It confirms the loses are crazily high though. About Russian winning the war that is a claim as yourself say, not a fact.
Lexicus
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Indeed, I don't see any end for the conflict in the near future, unless one army or the other suddenly collapses. I've seen this claimed enough from both sides over the last two years to be quite skeptical of imminent collapse.
Klaus Hergersheimer
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The hope is that Russians will see that their losses are untenable relevant for the goals they want to achieve, but my genuine fear is, they probably don't particularly care even if they did know (which my guess is they largely do not). This is some brawl right down the road from them, and the costs for that are probably easily sustainable for a country with no intention on European integration anyway. The elites will be sitting pretty, in the end.
Lexicus
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My view is that if this was going to happen it would have happened a while ago.
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What is the difference between this war and Soviet-Afghanistan war?
sylvanllewelyn
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Serious personal views to the difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine. Sorry for not citing specific sources in a news thread.
- Afghanistan has more mountains, Ukraine is more flat.
- Ukraine is physically closer to Russia's population and industrial centres than Afghanistan.
- Before, China and a few countries supported the Afghan resistance. Now China and a few countries are supporting Russia.
- Afghanistan never enjoyed much peace, their men lived in a warzone continuously for decades. Direct war didn't really start in Ukraine until around 2014.
- Afghanistan has a higher birth rate than Ukraine. (Sorry for speaking in such an inconsiderate way but numbers matter in decade-long wars).
I don't know how important these factors are.
- Afghanistan has more mountains, Ukraine is more flat.
- Ukraine is physically closer to Russia's population and industrial centres than Afghanistan.
- Before, China and a few countries supported the Afghan resistance. Now China and a few countries are supporting Russia.
- Afghanistan never enjoyed much peace, their men lived in a warzone continuously for decades. Direct war didn't really start in Ukraine until around 2014.
- Afghanistan has a higher birth rate than Ukraine. (Sorry for speaking in such an inconsiderate way but numbers matter in decade-long wars).
I don't know how important these factors are.
There are differences and paralells.
Afghani government was not a democracy, while Ukraine is a democracy.
Afghanis were never part or Russia, Ukrainians lived under Soviet Russia.
Russians did not want to ethnic cleanse and colonise parts of Afghanistan while they want parts of Ukraine.
In Ukraine there is still Ukrainian army fighting with invaders, in Afghanistan it was about guerilla resistance.
Afghani government was not a democracy, while Ukraine is a democracy.
Afghanis were never part or Russia, Ukrainians lived under Soviet Russia.
Russians did not want to ethnic cleanse and colonise parts of Afghanistan while they want parts of Ukraine.
In Ukraine there is still Ukrainian army fighting with invaders, in Afghanistan it was about guerilla resistance.
Moderator Action: Let's not rehash previous wars please. Stick with current news.
Crimea was attacked last night with 6 ATACMS missiles, according to Russian MoD.
The governor warned about submunition pieces from shot down missiles scattered in some areas, urged citizens not to touch them.
t.me
Russia resumed advance in Rabotino area, Ukrainians are being pushed out of the village.
Berdychi are fully captured, according to MoD report.
Assault in Krasnogorovka also continues, fights in the center of the town.
The governor warned about submunition pieces from shot down missiles scattered in some areas, urged citizens not to touch them.
Аксёнов Z 82
Внимание жителям и гостям полуострова! Симферопольский район (село Донское, окрестности). После сбития ракет ATACMS рассыпались несдетонировавшие суббоеприпасы. При обнаружении данного боеприпаса – не поднимать, не приближаться, вызвать сотрудников МЧС и МВД.
t.me
Russia resumed advance in Rabotino area, Ukrainians are being pushed out of the village.
Berdychi are fully captured, according to MoD report.
Assault in Krasnogorovka also continues, fights in the center of the town.
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