1 Dead, 2 injured in SpecOps raid on Baalbek

[C~G]

Hey, relax a bit now zenspiderz and put the cork back on just for a moment, OK?
Take it easy, this is just friendly suggestion.

 

[brennan]

My point is there is only one thing to do let Israel continue its offensive until every terrorist scumbag is dead or captured followed by airstrikes on hezbollahs sponsors Iran and Syria, every day until they stop supplying hezbollah.

Yeah, I bet that'll work. When Israel bombs and kills Lebanese civilians I am sure all the locals say 'Woohoo, Israel are fighting terrorists again, don't mind us...' and it is of course totally ridiculous to suggest that anyone whose neighbours have just become collateral damage might be thinking 'hey wait a minute Hezbollah are right about these Zionist murderers'.

It sure seems to be working in Iraq, where the mighty US army has been killing that finite number of people who are 'evil terrorists' for 3 years now. I am sure the attacks will stop any day now; all the terrorists will soon be dead and then the rest of the world can have a party. Hurrah.

 

[zenspiderz]

Hey, relax a bit now zenspiderz and put the cork back on just for a moment, OK?
Take it easy, this is just friendly suggestion.

Ok that was a bit raw..

I suppose the moderators will pull it..

 

[nivi]

Oh come on 'fess up you were gave up on your 'long reply' because you realised it would not fool me. I live for reason. That and kindness.

Peace will come to the middle east when zionism is shown to be a false and harmful doctrine that hurts not just christian and muslim but also jew.

PEACE!!!

Oh yeah, my zionist "grand plan" would never fool someone with such an intelligence.

 

[nivi]

How about that family relaxing at the beach in Gaza that your boys shelled? How many did you get again? I suppose it was alright killing them as they would only done to themselves if the IDF hadn't.. is that right?

Not saying it would have been alright, just saying if a muslim would have done it the world (and that includes you), wouldn't have given a ****.

 

[ulsterman88]

Good point the media cries bloody murder every time an arab or palestinain dies, it is never the case for Israelis.

 

[zenspiderz]

Not saying it would have been alright, just saying if a muslim would have done it the world (and that includes you), wouldn't have given a ****.

No I don't think so.. The taking of life is a crime especially if they are innocent it does not matter to me the race or religion of either the perpetrator or the victim.

 

[nivi]

No I don't think so.. The taking of life is a crime especially if they are innocent it does not matter to me the race or religion of either the perpetrator or the victim.

Then why do you never say a thing about whats going on in Africa?

There you get war and sufering on a way bigger scale.

 

[fenceman]

Annan: Israeli raid violates cease-fire

According to Israel, the raid deep into Lebanon was a defensive action to prevent Syria and Iran from rearming Hezbollah.

Kofi Annan, however, says that the raid was a violation of the cease-fire, and threatens the fragile peace.

Reading this article reminded me of a thread i read earlyer here with a poll on who would violate the cease-fire first.

 

[blackheart]

I cant understand why the UN is trying to impliment a ceasefire which is only going to protect the terrorists of hezbollah, the lebanese army arent going to disarm hezbollah and certainly dont think a group italian, Malaysian and Bangladeshi troops will do it. My point is there is only one thing to do let Israel continue its offensive until every terrorist scumbag is dead or captured followed by airstrikes on hezbollahs sponsors Iran and Syria, every day until they stop supplying hezbollah.

Do I even need to point out the obvious flaws and lack of strategizing in this plan?

 

[Capulet]

Good point the media cries bloody murder every time an arab or palestinain dies, it is never the case for Israelis.

If that isn't sarcasm, I don't know what is.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

According to Israel, the raid deep into Lebanon was a defensive action to prevent Syria and Iran from rearming Hezbollah.

It doesn't matter what the raid was for, it still violated the ceasefire. The ceasefire doesn't take away Israel's right to defend itself from attacks, but special ops miles away from Israel's border is a clear violation.

The news media reporting it this way is rather like reporting a burglary and then following it up by reminding readers that the burglar was oh so poor and very very hungry.

 

[amadeus]

The news media reporting it this way is rather like reporting a burglary and then following it up by reminding readers that the burglar was oh so poor and very very hungry.

You could have just said the news media is reporting it like they do with the Palestinians.

Israel should do what it needs to do to secure itself, but Olmert needs to go. He fought a phony war and signed a phony "cease fire" which made no sense in the first place since nobody was willing to disarm Hezbollah.

As far as Annan goes...

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

For a long time I was undecided between

1. Olmert = malicious jackass
and
2. Olmert = incompetent fool

Those were really the only two explanations I could see. You are absolutely correct in your characterization of the war, it accomplished NONE of Israel's objectives against Hizbollah. The campaign was basically: "Bomb everything BUT Hizbollah." It only made it more difficult for Lebanon to deal with Hezbollah themselves - and in the long run that is the only possible solution.

This latest news has swayed me towards option numero dos. Breaking a ceasefire two days after signing it - that's what terrorists do, not states.

RE Annan, the UN sucks under him but that doesn't affect the fact that he's right about the facts here.

 

[amadeus]

Well, Lebanon doesn't want to deal with Hezbollah. They're allies. All Israel did is give Lebanon's government an excuse to publicly team up with them.

 

[El_Machinae]

That's funny "They're allies, and now the necessary steps have been made to make them more so! Yay for our team"

As far as Annan goes...

Honestly, do you think this picture makes your point? Did this picture actually count as evidence in your world-view?

 

[amadeus]

Please. All UN Secretaries General are anti-Israel, it's a prerequisite for the job.

 

[blackheart]

Well, Lebanon doesn't want to deal with Hezbollah. They're allies. All Israel did is give Lebanon's government an excuse to publicly team up with them.

More like Lebanon is too afraid to take on Hezbollah because they'll lose.

Please. All UN Secretaries General are anti-Israel, it's a prerequisite for the job.

Paranoid much?

 

[MobBoss]

That's funny "They're allies, and now the necessary steps have been made to make them more so! Yay for our team"



Honestly, do you think this picture makes your point? Did this picture actually count as evidence in your world-view?

Why do you chide this picture when similiar pictures of Rumsfield shaking Saddams hand get rolled out all the time for the same effect?

I mean come on. If the Rummy/Saddam pic is good enough for evidence...WHY ISNT THIS?

 

[El_Machinae]

Do you find the Saddam/Rumsfeld picture to be any evidence? I would think not. For the exact same reason that people should discount the Saddam/Rumsfeld picture, people should discount this one.

RMSharpe's use of this picture would only be appropriate if he thought the Rumsfeld/Saddam picture was evidence of an alliance too. I'm assuming he doesn't.

At best it, it was dishonest of him.

PS: I've never seen the Rumsfeld/Saddam picture, I'm just working with your example. I've certainly rolled my eyes at that picture of Bush holding the Saudi Prince's hand, and at the people who read more into it than political circumstance.