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Tim Ford
Prince
Played and sent that stuff, good speed everyone!
Mitchum
Deity
GPS 1889.
Happy Holidays!
Happy Holidays!
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
1535 to onclouds
Tim Ford
Prince
Twice in one day! And on Christmas eve no less. This is a special game for sure now.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
Whoops nevermind, too much eggnog.
Mitchum
Deity
Gps 1889...
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
1540 to Onclouds.
Mitchum
Deity
GPS to 1889.
It looks like we might actually finish this game in 2008 now!!
It looks like we might actually finish this game in 2008 now!!
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
1545 to Onclouds in a minute or two.
Tim Ford
Prince
There seems to be a lot of hustle and bustle going on concerning war and peace. A lot of it is based on events that happened in the past to the original players. For those of you who do not know what happened I'll give a brief explanation.
India was the first civ to attack another nation. India under Ozy attacked and destroyed America putting him well in the lead.
In response to this I stamped out Spain, also learning in this act that England and Greece were well situated in respect to each other. Spain was formally at the crossroads of Greece, Germany, and England.
Under Agemo Germany got it's war machine ready to attack me. I don't know if he intended to go it alone or if he had allies. But wanting to be prepared I started investing in a larger army.
This whole time Egypt and France under Dazz G attacked no one. Egypt was developed well balanced. Russia and France however focused largely on expansion leaving their tech very week but their land masses large.
Then Agemo was the first to drop out and was replaced by Chris T (Who did a better job with things than Agemo). Chris T announced that he didn't want to wage war with me as he had no ally, and with no Galleons yet at the time no way to get the Arabs over to help. In effect he didn't think he could win with Germany taking on Greece and England single handedly.
I suggested to Chris T that we attack the persians together. The Persians were located between England and France and took up roughly half of the continent. Germany and England were trying to take the persians before the French. As it turned out France was planning a war at the exact same time. That is why England has two cities and germany has one city on the french continent. That is all they could take having to get troops over with galley's. France got the rest. The major result of the war was that Chris and I started trading techs in order to catch up with India who was well ahead of everyone.
After wiping out the persians I got very interested in exploration and oversea expansion. Thanks to that I have now explored the whole map and colonized New England after wiping out the two barbarian cities that formally occupied the region.
While I was doing this Chris T was VERY nervous about India and Egypt. I don't know if he honestly though they were going to attack him or if he just wanted to attack them. But, he was actively trying to get me to attack them with him. I said that I didn't want to be the one to start human on human wars, but that I would back him if they attacked him.
This lead to a two team cold war. Greece, England, Arabia and Germany against Egypt, Russia, India, and France. Each side was preparing for war with the other.
Well that is how it was. Now that all the players have changed but me, things can change. It is up to us now. Do we have war or peace? I can say that I am not planning on attacking anyone nor do I want to. I do admit that I have a large army, but that is because I have learned that one often needs to be prepared in civ. When it comes down to it the armed forces are your only protection in the game. I assure you, the troops have no objective but defense at this time.
My interpretation of the politics of the game concerning me are as such.
1: Being so well off right now I cannot instigate an attack. This will make me out to be a warmonger and everyone will surely dog-pile me.
2: I will continue to tech trade with Germany and Arabia as I am sure Onclouds will not attack me. I am hesitant to trade a military tech with Mitch or 1889 until I can be sure that I'm not giving a future enemy better troops.
3: Have gun will shoot. I enjoy a good war. Since I can't start one I can only join sides after one has started. If someone did start a war I would probably get involved until one side had enough and called for peace. As far as picking sides I would always side with Germany as Germany represents a crucial stability on my homeland, and second would be Arabia as helping arabia would help keep Germany stable.
There
That is what I think.
Now no one needs to worry about my intentions. They are all in black and white up there.
India was the first civ to attack another nation. India under Ozy attacked and destroyed America putting him well in the lead.
In response to this I stamped out Spain, also learning in this act that England and Greece were well situated in respect to each other. Spain was formally at the crossroads of Greece, Germany, and England.
Under Agemo Germany got it's war machine ready to attack me. I don't know if he intended to go it alone or if he had allies. But wanting to be prepared I started investing in a larger army.
This whole time Egypt and France under Dazz G attacked no one. Egypt was developed well balanced. Russia and France however focused largely on expansion leaving their tech very week but their land masses large.
Then Agemo was the first to drop out and was replaced by Chris T (Who did a better job with things than Agemo). Chris T announced that he didn't want to wage war with me as he had no ally, and with no Galleons yet at the time no way to get the Arabs over to help. In effect he didn't think he could win with Germany taking on Greece and England single handedly.
I suggested to Chris T that we attack the persians together. The Persians were located between England and France and took up roughly half of the continent. Germany and England were trying to take the persians before the French. As it turned out France was planning a war at the exact same time. That is why England has two cities and germany has one city on the french continent. That is all they could take having to get troops over with galley's. France got the rest. The major result of the war was that Chris and I started trading techs in order to catch up with India who was well ahead of everyone.
After wiping out the persians I got very interested in exploration and oversea expansion. Thanks to that I have now explored the whole map and colonized New England after wiping out the two barbarian cities that formally occupied the region.
While I was doing this Chris T was VERY nervous about India and Egypt. I don't know if he honestly though they were going to attack him or if he just wanted to attack them. But, he was actively trying to get me to attack them with him. I said that I didn't want to be the one to start human on human wars, but that I would back him if they attacked him.
This lead to a two team cold war. Greece, England, Arabia and Germany against Egypt, Russia, India, and France. Each side was preparing for war with the other.
Well that is how it was. Now that all the players have changed but me, things can change. It is up to us now. Do we have war or peace? I can say that I am not planning on attacking anyone nor do I want to. I do admit that I have a large army, but that is because I have learned that one often needs to be prepared in civ. When it comes down to it the armed forces are your only protection in the game. I assure you, the troops have no objective but defense at this time.
My interpretation of the politics of the game concerning me are as such.
1: Being so well off right now I cannot instigate an attack. This will make me out to be a warmonger and everyone will surely dog-pile me.
2: I will continue to tech trade with Germany and Arabia as I am sure Onclouds will not attack me. I am hesitant to trade a military tech with Mitch or 1889 until I can be sure that I'm not giving a future enemy better troops.
3: Have gun will shoot. I enjoy a good war. Since I can't start one I can only join sides after one has started. If someone did start a war I would probably get involved until one side had enough and called for peace. As far as picking sides I would always side with Germany as Germany represents a crucial stability on my homeland, and second would be Arabia as helping arabia would help keep Germany stable.
There
That is what I think.
Now no one needs to worry about my intentions. They are all in black and white up there.
Mitchum
Deity
GPS to 1889.
Tim, thanks for giving us a history lesson letting us know where you stand. I always wondered how the world turned out the way it did.
I'm going to Disneyland tomorrow with my family and won't be able to play. I'll play my turn (assuming it is waiting) when I return on Saturday afternoon.
Tim, thanks for giving us a history lesson letting us know where you stand. I always wondered how the world turned out the way it did.
I'm going to Disneyland tomorrow with my family and won't be able to play. I'll play my turn (assuming it is waiting) when I return on Saturday afternoon.
bathsheba666
Fast 'n Bulbous
Sorry to butt in, but in case it is of any historical interest:...
(Too long ago for me to remember which tribes belonged to whom exactly)
I started the game with India and Russia.
Russia was on a continent with the ai Chinese.
India was on a continent with the ai Americans and a human tribe ?Arabs??
Russia had a desperate start in terms of location and resources and was out of contact with anyone for most of (my) game.
(As India I was desperate to find her and gift all the missing techs).
India was the one having fun.
I had early contact with the Arabs?? and Egyptians.
I am a generally a tech trading whore, will trade with anyone, and had research pacts with both.
This initially worked out, so I was getting my techs for about one third the cost.
I also wiped out America, and had a nice lead in points.
Things changed at two points, when Agemo took over the Arabs we (India) had traded maps, but he still sent miltary units tramping over my territory.
I discussed this with the Egyptians, and also explained to him I wasn't keen, and he withdrew.
But from then on I was wary.
The second point (quite some time later) may have been around the time I made contact with Tim's tribe (can't remember names).
The Arabs stopped tech trading with me, citing agreements with Tim.
Tim refused to trade one particular tech, citing special need, which was fair enough.
At this point I contacted the Egyptians and pointed out the special deal Tim and Agemo obviously had.
Egypt (Dazz G) had already expressed concern around the time Agemo was tramping around India.
It was a no-brainer for us to reaffirm structured tech trading (which I think Dazz had lost the plot on previously) and look out for overt aggression.
At this point I was in a quandary.
RL problems (still existing) impinged on my ability to play both quickly enough and accurately(?) enough.
My next steps would have been for Russia, with her new tech levels, to conquer China.
I am a firm believer that the ai is only there for target practice.
As well as the earlier question marks, Arabs had been very aggressively building towns right next to my Indian borders and putting cultural pressure on.
I did not trust the Arabs, and given their latest alliance with Tim, I had pretty much decided to get my retaliation in first.
However, I really did not have time to arrange for the war (although I had quite a few knights and trebs around).
At this point I decided to quit and let someone have a go who could do it better justice than I had time for.
This was a desperate shame for me, because this was my most successful Civ4 game.
Interesting to see that no wars ever did break out, although suspicions obviously remain.
(Too long ago for me to remember which tribes belonged to whom exactly)
I started the game with India and Russia.
Russia was on a continent with the ai Chinese.
India was on a continent with the ai Americans and a human tribe ?Arabs??
Russia had a desperate start in terms of location and resources and was out of contact with anyone for most of (my) game.
(As India I was desperate to find her and gift all the missing techs).
India was the one having fun.
I had early contact with the Arabs?? and Egyptians.
I am a generally a tech trading whore, will trade with anyone, and had research pacts with both.
This initially worked out, so I was getting my techs for about one third the cost.
I also wiped out America, and had a nice lead in points.
Things changed at two points, when Agemo took over the Arabs we (India) had traded maps, but he still sent miltary units tramping over my territory.
I discussed this with the Egyptians, and also explained to him I wasn't keen, and he withdrew.
But from then on I was wary.
The second point (quite some time later) may have been around the time I made contact with Tim's tribe (can't remember names).
The Arabs stopped tech trading with me, citing agreements with Tim.
Tim refused to trade one particular tech, citing special need, which was fair enough.
At this point I contacted the Egyptians and pointed out the special deal Tim and Agemo obviously had.
Egypt (Dazz G) had already expressed concern around the time Agemo was tramping around India.
It was a no-brainer for us to reaffirm structured tech trading (which I think Dazz had lost the plot on previously) and look out for overt aggression.
At this point I was in a quandary.
RL problems (still existing) impinged on my ability to play both quickly enough and accurately(?) enough.
My next steps would have been for Russia, with her new tech levels, to conquer China.
I am a firm believer that the ai is only there for target practice.
As well as the earlier question marks, Arabs had been very aggressively building towns right next to my Indian borders and putting cultural pressure on.
I did not trust the Arabs, and given their latest alliance with Tim, I had pretty much decided to get my retaliation in first.
However, I really did not have time to arrange for the war (although I had quite a few knights and trebs around).
At this point I decided to quit and let someone have a go who could do it better justice than I had time for.
This was a desperate shame for me, because this was my most successful Civ4 game.
Interesting to see that no wars ever did break out, although suspicions obviously remain.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
1550 to Onclouds.
Mitchum
Deity
GPS to 1889.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
1555 to Onclouds.
