10 FAQs before Declaring a War
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Zombie69 said:
That makes some sense. Having the odds closer to, or even below, fifty percent does seem to give me more experience points per combat... So there's no bonus for defeating a higher era unit with a lower era unit? Darn, I was hoping for a quick way to gain experience. Those promotions are killer!
Arathorn and Roland Johanson say you're right, the xps gained are based on *modified strength* (thus combat odds). And you get double for attacking.
==Originally Posted by Arathorn
Experience Points
The winner of combat gains experience points. Like most of combat, experience points are determined by the ratio of strengths. The value is floor(iXPValue*opponent_strength/your_strength), where iXPValue comes from the XML file. For all standard units, iXPValue is 4 for an attacking unit and 2 for a defending unit. The minimum number of experience points for a successful fight is 1, however. The strengths are the displayed modified strengths (from bonuses and hps).
Exceptions: A unit which attacks and retreats gains a single experience point in all cases. The defending unit receives no experience points in this case.
Example: A sword (str:6) attacks a spearman (str:4) on flatlands. If the sword won, he would receive 2 (floor(4*4/6)) xps. The spear would gain 3 (floor(2*6/4)) xps if it won.
Example: A modern armor (str:40) attacks a spear (str:4). If the modern armor wins (odds: 99.999999+%), it gains 1 xp, not 0 (floor(4*4/40)). If the spear wins (odds: 6e^-13), it would gain 20 xp (floor(2*40/4)).==
==Originally Posted by Arathorn
Experience Points
The winner of combat gains experience points. Like most of combat, experience points are determined by the ratio of strengths. The value is floor(iXPValue*opponent_strength/your_strength), where iXPValue comes from the XML file. For all standard units, iXPValue is 4 for an attacking unit and 2 for a defending unit. The minimum number of experience points for a successful fight is 1, however. The strengths are the displayed modified strengths (from bonuses and hps).
Exceptions: A unit which attacks and retreats gains a single experience point in all cases. The defending unit receives no experience points in this case.
Example: A sword (str:6) attacks a spearman (str:4) on flatlands. If the sword won, he would receive 2 (floor(4*4/6)) xps. The spear would gain 3 (floor(2*6/4)) xps if it won.
Example: A modern armor (str:40) attacks a spear (str:4). If the modern armor wins (odds: 99.999999+%), it gains 1 xp, not 0 (floor(4*4/40)). If the spear wins (odds: 6e^-13), it would gain 20 xp (floor(2*40/4)).==
Zombie69
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Well that's no news to me, since i consider the combat explained thread to be the best article written for Civ 4 to date. I've pretty much known it all by heart for what seems like forever!
Note however that the article is outdated, and under version 1.61, it's not the actual strength that's used for combat, odds and XP anymore, but the average between base strength and actual strength.
Note however that the article is outdated, and under version 1.61, it's not the actual strength that's used for combat, odds and XP anymore, but the average between base strength and actual strength.
Arithmomaniac
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This is for the War Academy.
you should add info:
before war check if your target doesn't have any defence pacts
this thing is quite important
Right! If the Japanese had realized Hawaii had a defensive pact with the US . . .
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I though all wars should be conducted like:
We shoot first, ask questions later.
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I though all wars should be conducted like:
We shoot first, ask questions later.
And if you win, you don't have to ask questions ever.
Jerrymander
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That's how I roll. I only ask one question before I attack my opponents:
Why haven't I attacked them already?
Jazzmail
King
- Keeping the AI busy and slow their teching, building infrastructure
- Just so you can make allies = better trades and less chance getting backstabbed or even dogpiled
- Forming a bloc
Jerrymander
Epistemologist
when attacked: let enemy crushes on your defences; find ally
when attacking: prepare roads, position enough units to attack many cities at once, soften defences, bring defending units to survive and heal when counterattacked, eliminate strategic resource if possible.
i let defansive war lasts to exhaust enemy while attacking one is blitz krieg.
i usually have 1 unit lost on every 20 i take down
when attacking: prepare roads, position enough units to attack many cities at once, soften defences, bring defending units to survive and heal when counterattacked, eliminate strategic resource if possible.
i let defansive war lasts to exhaust enemy while attacking one is blitz krieg.
i usually have 1 unit lost on every 20 i take down
Unless you hugely overpower your victim it's pretty hard to attack many cities at once with minimal casualties. As you listed, the key is to let your wounded units recover, and for me that usually happens when I attack with one massive SOD army. When I try to be clever and split my force, one prong of the attack is often overrun by an overwhelming wave of siege and inferior but limitless units. Once your defensive units are all hurt and your attacking units are doing the defending, the stack is unlikely to be offensively useful, and you're just losing precious units.
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