dc82
Prince
it's not just about who lasted the longest, or which civ started first, but it's also about civ's that made a large impacts to history and the world.
the us is more than qualified to be in - if anything it's amazing that within its 200 year existance, it's affected the world in immeasurable ways, where its decisions have at points had consequences that impact billions - the american revolution was def. a contributing factor that led to future revolutions around the world, its independence and policies of manifest destiny not only deterred european interference (at least compared to the scale beforehand), but also affected countless natives in north america. the result wwi and esp. wwii were definitely changed by us involvement.
by some of the suggested standards previously posted, it wud be just as absurd to put in others civs - the aztecs were only a major power in the late 1300 - early 1500s, existing not that much longer than the united states (relative to some of the older civs) germany as a nation didn't exist until 1871. the mongols, while definitely changing the course of history in its conquests, were only really prominent 12-14th centuries, before declining.
america, however, unlike how it was portrayed in civ3, should be classified more under a "european" civ. either way though, there really is no argument on the degree and magnitude america has made in the world. and history's not over yet. for all you know america may exist somehow for another 5000 years, while other civs disappear.
i think it would help to understand the definition of a civilization as well - it doesn't necessarily mean an old and lasting culture/people. one source defines it - "the type of culture and society developed by a particular nation or region or in a particular epoch: Mayan civilization; the civilization of ancient Rome." the us definitely fits as a particular nation in our modern epoch.
the us is more than qualified to be in - if anything it's amazing that within its 200 year existance, it's affected the world in immeasurable ways, where its decisions have at points had consequences that impact billions - the american revolution was def. a contributing factor that led to future revolutions around the world, its independence and policies of manifest destiny not only deterred european interference (at least compared to the scale beforehand), but also affected countless natives in north america. the result wwi and esp. wwii were definitely changed by us involvement.
by some of the suggested standards previously posted, it wud be just as absurd to put in others civs - the aztecs were only a major power in the late 1300 - early 1500s, existing not that much longer than the united states (relative to some of the older civs) germany as a nation didn't exist until 1871. the mongols, while definitely changing the course of history in its conquests, were only really prominent 12-14th centuries, before declining.
america, however, unlike how it was portrayed in civ3, should be classified more under a "european" civ. either way though, there really is no argument on the degree and magnitude america has made in the world. and history's not over yet. for all you know america may exist somehow for another 5000 years, while other civs disappear.
i think it would help to understand the definition of a civilization as well - it doesn't necessarily mean an old and lasting culture/people. one source defines it - "the type of culture and society developed by a particular nation or region or in a particular epoch: Mayan civilization; the civilization of ancient Rome." the us definitely fits as a particular nation in our modern epoch.
) would be overkill. I'd personally pefrer Portugal but am unsure of UU or leaders (Alfonzo I maybe?).
