2008 NFL Offseason

Azale said:
Eli Manning is still a slightly above average quaterback...
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Just stirring the pot here, but if Eli is slightly above average, what does that make Tony Romo? Eli may not have the great stats (I'll immediately grant that he's average at best there), but he does know how to win in december and january, while Romo has got great stats, but he sucks in december and january...

:mischief:

If I were either a Cowboys or a Giants fan (which you all know I am not), I'd be far happier with my QB situation if I was rooting for Eli. Stats are nice. Results in january are what matters.
 
Tony is another qb i think over rated he may have his great games, but does any one else remember that 5 or 6 turnover game he had? Plus just like darkness said tony can't get it done in the playoffs. If I were a Cowboy or Giants fan i would rather have Matt Cassel, he may not do very good every week but at least he would be consistent instead of a second and third coming of ol Aaron Brooks
 
Tony has done fine in the playoffs...remember, he had the drive that TIED the score two years ago in the rain in Seattle and has plenty of last drive, comeback moments. I have plenty of faith in him, and he has shown much more of a propensity to be a great QB than Eli Manning has. They are both damn clutch, both have way to many turnovers, but Romo is just more dynamic at this point. He has more mobility, he has more of that "it". Hopefully he doesn't lose "it" this year, but 13-3 is still some kind of accomplishment even if the playoffs were a bust.

Look at Manning's QB rating for the duration of the year though and review the majority of his games this year...he is a slightly above average quaterback who just did not blow the chance the terrific defense his team was playing was giving him. Ahmad Bradshaw & Brandon Jacobs were fantastic down the stretch too.

What's overrated is Dallas' defense and it has been since about 2004. It's possibly the least clutch "good" defense in the league. Our running game was VASTLY overrated last year too, JJ was just about worthless and Barber was not given the ball the entire game and is not, IMO, a complete all around back (that's why we drafted Felix Jones AND Tashard Choice). JJ actually reminds me of a much less talented Shaun Alexander...the guy seems to trip over blades of grass sometimes. He NEVER breaks tackles.

@holiday hawk, yea...you can keep Matt Cassel. Did you give up on Peyton Manning after he lost 40-0 to the Jets in the playoffs? What about when Staubach just couldnt get over the hump? What I'm saying is, just because it does not happen instantly does not mean he is a "failure and will never get it done". It's disappointing as hell, but I still look at the shortcomings of other parts of this team waaay before I look at what Romo has done wrong.

Second coming of Aaron Brooks? Aaron Brooks has much less of a head on his shoulders than Romo does...Brooks had a stronger arm, but could not lead in near the same way Romo can. 13-3 is already something never touched by Brooks. Brooks was a guy who lit up the stats sheet for a few years (he had a 24-8 TD-INT year right before he fell off the map) with little winning to show for it.
 
Romo this year in january: 18/36, 201yards, 1 TD and 1 INT
Romo last year in january: 17/29, 189yards, 1 TD and a botched hold on crucial field goal attempt.

I'm not looking to bash Romo here, but 'fine' is not how I would describe Romo's two playoff appearances. 'Average' would be my choice of words.
 
Fine means, good enough to win :p Not great enough to win by himself or overcome a mediocre defensive game, but good enough to win.

I expect more too, I'm just not overly concerned by Romo. I'm overly concerned with the age of our receivers (Stanback and Hurd better become something special), the age of our offensive line (in some spots), and the gelling of our defense in Wade Phillips Year 2. I'm also hoping our kicker curse doesn't kick in this year either with Folk.
 
Eli is an above average QB with the chance to be good--but not great. His biggest problem is who his brother is.
 
DUI

Fleeing & eluding police

Reckless driving

Driving on suspended licence

Thats Marcus Vick :lol:

Must run in the family
 
Yesterday I received an email from NFL UK that I had been drawn from the lottery to be able to try to purchase tickets for the game in London on october 26th. It's still on a first come, first served basis, but at least I've got a shot to get tickets.

There just might be three very enthousiastic Dutchmen in Wembley Stadium on october 26th. :)
 
The game is New Orleans vs. San Diego right? That is going to be one awesome game, I'm rooting for you to win Darkness! :D
 
Any thoughts on the J.Walker beatdown? :scan:

If seen TV programs before about how dangerous the back/side streets can
be in Vegas. What fool shoots champagne around a club and then wanders
the streets by himself??? :rolleyes:
 
After the fantasy season Walker gave me last year(6th round).... eh nevermind.

Anyway, Roosevelt Colvin to the Texans.
 
dgfred said:
Any thoughts on the J.Walker beatdown? :scan:

If seen TV programs before about how dangerous the back/side streets can
be in Vegas. What fool shoots champagne around a club and then wanders
the streets by himself??? :rolleyes:
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My only thought is i wish it wouldn't been me doing it, after the way he screwed Green Bay over.

Oh and did you guys hear that he wanted to come back to be traded back to Green Bay since we were doing good now, he is one guy i wouldn't mind if he dropped off the face of the Earth.
 
Ahh yes, the class of a Packer fan emerges. "He didn't liked my team and he left them all mean and so yea, I hope he has his skull bashed in and is mugged :mad:"

:rolleyes:
 
I don't think that 'hawk was wishing that walker's skull got bashed in, I do think that 'hawk didn't mind that it had happened though. I can't find fault with his sentiment for the guy! I mean, if you are going to be a fan you should be loyal...I think he is proving his loyalty here. :goodjob:
 
No...he is being an idiot. Javon didn't even "screw the team over". He was mad that the Packers would not re-do his deal because he messed up his knee, he made a tiff about it, got traded, no more.

Plenty of wide receiver's do that. Is it lame? Yea. Is it "screwing the team over", no. I would say Favre did that waaay more with his retirement crud the last few years.
 
Plenty of wide receiver's do that.
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you mean plenty of GOOD WR's do that!

I would consider javon a mediocre WR that Favre made look damn good in 2004, and apparently the Packers felt the same. Especially since he had injury issues and also had off-the-field issues (that eventually came to haunt the Broncos) . I think the Raider's are really reaching when they gave him a $55 mill deal.

He might be worth a late pick in fantasy drafts this season given that Russell will look to his veteran status for help making the raiders viable again.
 
Azale said:
No...he is being an idiot. Javon didn't even "screw the team over". He was mad that the Packers would not re-do his deal because he messed up his knee, he made a tiff about it, got traded, no more.

Plenty of wide receiver's do that. Is it lame? Yea. Is it "screwing the team over", no. I would say Favre did that waaay more with his retirement crud the last few years.
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Well we spent a first round pick on him, and what do we get a whiny WR who wants a ton of money with a blown knee. If we didn't finish 4-12 he would have stayed anyway i bet, but what makes me the maddest is when i heard he wanted back when we had the explosive season. I'm sure any fan of any team would hate someone that there team spent a first round pick expecting them to be the cornerstone of the team for years to come and all they are is injury prone and whiny.
 
Walker was not injury prone on the Packers...his injury would have happened to anyone. If anything, he made Favre look good that one season. He would chuck it up and Walker would catch it in some spectacular fashion. Javon was the most talented wide receiver the Packers have had since Sterling Sharpe.

He was also having a good season last year before being injured. Now he might be injury prone, but if he had stayed healthy the Broncos would have made the playoffs.

All I'm saying is he does not deserve the whole "I wish I could have done it myself" "Good he deserves it" tripe that is really only reserved for the worst of the worst. Remember Rae Carruth? That's the kinda guy I want to use that wordage on.
 
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