2510 BC - Governmental Preferences

FortyJ

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Military and Commerce/Research will likely be the keys to victory in this game. I think we can all agree on this. We have already discovered that building a city on top of the hill containing the gold will yield additional commerce without having to waste a laborer to work the tile, which will be extremely beneficial. Hopefully, we can continue to find ways to maximize our commerce (and thus our research).

The other side of the research coin is equally important. We should be careful to not waste time researching techs that we do not want. While this obviously won't apply to the techs needed to advance from age to age, there are optional techs that we can bypass to save our valuable research. Among these optional techs are the government techs. If we don't intend to ever become a particular government, then we should not bother wasting our commerce to research it.

As we are not a religious nation by nature, we must endure a period of anarchy between governments. This can be quite costly, so we should obviously try to avoid changing governments as much as possible.

For those who believe that a Republic or Democracy should be our ideal form of government, I offer these words of caution: we will not be able to control when we are at war or at peace in this game. A hostile nation, no matter where they are in the world, can declare war in the game, even if they have no intention of ever sending troops our way, simply to create civil unrest.

However, if we are the only Monarchy or Communist state, and everyone else is a Democracy, we may find ourselves falling behind in research, productivity, and more. And declaring war on the rest of the world at the same time might not be a good strategy for success.

With this in mind, I open the floor for discussion on the issue of governmental strategy. What governments should we shoot for? What priority should we give them with respect to each other? What priority should we give research to governments with respect to other technologies?
 
I think a republican government would by the most ideally suited for our warmongernig state. It's war weariness is generally forgiving, with the added bonuses of the representative forms of government.
 
True, but what about us being the only militaristic civ? The other post w/ Goonie's General strategy poll had the idea of using our military to our advantage.
 
So democracy is likely not our way.
But republic may be the way. As Octavian said, we can handle the warweariness.
But we might want to go for monarchy in the start, since it give us support for our units.
 
In 1.14 I'm pretty sure there is no war weariness in multiplayer. (Bug, not feature).

Therefore if that is the case, republic/democracy is the way to go!
 
Originally posted by Hygro
In 1.14 I'm pretty sure there is no war weariness in multiplayer. (Bug, not feature).

Therefore if that is the case, republic/democracy is the way to go!

Pretty sure??? Well, if this is true (someone research this), then we should DEFINETLY go for republic.
 
Yes but we may move to 1.21.

And maybe Republic is a good call. War weariness is low, and the people become happy when you are at war. I have rarely had war weariness problems.

However, an enemy may declare war, wait for war weariness to get bad, then when we are in anarchy, attack us. So we must always strike first. ALWAYS. By this I dont mean declare war first - that'll make war weariness worse. I mean fire the first shots/swing the first swords.
 
war weariness is really not a problem if nobody fights. It'll hurt them just as much, if not more (as they declare war).
 
Keep in mind, that we may not physically be able to make peace with our enemies, even if war weariness gets out of control.

Because of this, and until it's proven that there is a bug which eliminates war weariness in 1.14f, I'm only in favor of Monarchy or Communism.
 
I think it will all depend on our situation.
 
If we need to wait for Infogrammes to release a working 1.21 patch for the international PTW version, we may as well switch to republic as soon as possible... I've lost all faith in them and I don't expect a new patch soon; especially with the Mac version (that makes 3 version of PTW to patch.... too much for them). /End of rant

I think Republic may be the way to go because it lowers corruption alot and the improved commerce will be very valuable to gain techs quickly, an important factor here. Another thing we could *maybe* do is to get a mutual protection pact with another civ which would be a republic or democracy and we protect them in return of techs. That's a long shot so I wouldn't bet on this but if the situation arises, it may be worth trying.
 
Are mutual protection pacts and the like allowed before Nationalism?
 
MPP's are very dangerous...
 
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