6 grams: C3C - Diety, with AI Armies (Maybe)

[Tone]

Ok-got it! Nice start KB. I'll play later today but in the meantime any team views on the settler? 1W seems OK to me, unless you want to leave it be and share the cows; we might even be lucky and find sugar under the fog. (I could always send it on a voyage to help block the chokepoint )

I'll send the worker to the game straight after the road is completed in three turns.

 

[Kaiser_Berger]

I was thinking of one west myself. Seems the most feasible.

 

[grahamiam]

NW and W are fine with me. I wouldn't run a settler up to the choke till we're prepared to defend the town. Let's get the core setup so we're in better position.

I will be out of town tonight and Saturday. I will not be able to play any civ till Sunday night.

 

[Tone]

Sorry. Never got round to it yesterday but I'm playing it now!

 

[Tone]

turn 0 (2750)
move settler W.

turn 1 (2710)
(Sum have BW, Mas and WC)
Build Osaka (warr).

turn 4 (2590)
Sum now has Alpha.

turn 6 (2510)
and they now have Myst and are building the Oracle.

turn 8 (2430)
Say hello to an Indian warrior. They have all the techs that Sum have except Myst.

turn 9 (2390)
Kyoto: gran>warr

turn 10 (2350)
Lux up to 10%

turn 11 (2310)
Kyoto: warr>settler; Osaka: warr>worker. Lux back down to 0%. I try to execute the block by moving the Kyoto warrior towards the narrow land. Scientist in Osaka-research at 0%. Reg warr from capital heads for Osaka and keep lux at 10%.

turn 12 (2270)
Indians have Myst and are building the Colossus

turn 13 (2230)
Up lux and get Osaka working again. Research back at 10%

turn 15 (2150)
Kyoto: settler>warr. lux down to 10%.


I've left you the settler and worker move to do. Feel free to change either of the builds. I was thinking that a forest chop could help the next settler out although a factory will be working after the warrior build so maybe we could send the settler to the wines and the worker can road towards them.

BTW please feel free to let me know of any bad moves. I'm still trying to improve my skills at this level so that I can get to the point where a win is more of a certainty.

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[Tone]

 

[grahamiam]

M60, you out there?

 

[M60A3TTS]

Got it. Will play Monday.

 

[Wotan]

Hi guys, got a link to this thread/game from Grahamiam. It could certainly be interesting to see if the armies in C3C could be tweaked a bit. They are terribly biased in favour of the human player ATM. If you want me on the team I am game for this.

BTW, what VC are we pursuing? With the idea of a deeper look into the workings of the armies I would understand conquest to be the choice but you might have other plans?

 

[grahamiam]

welcome wotan i'm guessing military type victory, with a space fallback. no 100k or 20k goal.

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[M60A3TTS]

My early take is we have the makings of a productive core, although a few more river tiles would have been nice. Not a lot of hills, so we may be dealing with an iron deficiency at some point. The wine and silks will keep our local citizens in a good mood.

I'll probably send the settler due north of Kyoto and build on the river/coast so we have the opportunity to get a boat in the water at some point. The wine should be safe enough for the time being. If a Sumerian settler starts down our way, I can do some blocking around Osaka. Doubt there will be a galley enroute before our next settler can be in place.

Any thought on buying alpha if the price is right, since the two others already know it?

 

[grahamiam]

i'm fine with buying it. next tech should be @ max research, though, so, hopefully, we can buy it for all our cash and min gpt.

 

[Tone]

I was hoping to meet another civ before considering a trade. You guys are more experienced though so I'll go with what you decide.

 

[M60A3TTS]

I was hoping to meet another civ before considering a trade. You guys are more experienced though so I'll go with what you decide.

It's likely the next civ we meet will already have contacted the other two and traded any existing advances around. So there may not be much gained by waiting to learn an advance everyone already has. The sooner we have a boat in the water, the sooner we can get a handle on who's where.

Not sure about going max tech after alpha. Do we risk spending all our cash and find at the end we're discovering what everyone else already knows? May be better to go min writing then philo gambit. Even if we don't pick up the free advance, philo is decent trade material.

 

[Tone]

It's likely the next civ we meet will already have contacted the other two and traded any existing advances around. So there may not be much gained by waiting to learn an advance everyone already has.

It makes it cheaper but I guess we cannot afford to fall too far behind.

Not sure about going max tech after alpha. Do we risk spending all our cash and find at the end we're discovering what everyone else already knows? May be better to go min writing then philo gambit. Even if we don't pick up the free advance, philo is decent trade material.

If we did go max tech what would we go for? I must admit I usually buy at this stage.

 

[grahamiam]

if we go min writing, we will never pull off the philo gambit. the AI is likely to go after IW while we go for writing and then MM while we go for Philosophy. if we save money, it's more likely to be demanded away (esp at diety) than accumulate at a level that will allow us to buy writing. If someone else gets to writing 1st and we do it at max, the number of turns it takes to complete will at least come down so we can, in effect, get it cheaper than buying it outright at monopoly prices.

 

[M60A3TTS]

My 15 turns at 1625BC

Abbreviated log to tell what's worth telling.

2030BC- Tokyo founded. Start rax as placeholder for curragh.

1990BC- Dutch finish Colossus.

1950BC- Alphabet in 6. Get Alphabet from India for 146 gold. Change Tokyo rax to curragh. Writing in 46 @ 70%. A couple people working on the Oracle.

1725BC- Tokyo curragh> rax. The Lucky Dragon sets sail in the direction of Sumeria.

1675BC- Connected up the horse by road.

1625BC- 19 gold. Writing in 21 @ -1 gpt. And done.

Explored around Sumeria and India by land. Settler can drop a town next to wines next turn, and another settler is ready to be moved in Kyoto now. Don’t know if he should head for the silks which is a 9-turn trip or keep building out the core.

Next up can change any builds as you see fit.

 

[grahamiam]

Looks good as always, M60

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[MailMan]

I got it, I will probably play only tomorrow.
Do someone want to post a dot-map setteling points or should I just settle to my best judgement?

 

[MailMan]

pre turn:
we are very low on workers. set capital to produce one before the next settler.
move the settler in the capital east.

IBT - The pyramids were built by the Sumerian in Ur (good, relatively close to us).
Greeks finish the oracle.

1. 1600BC
found two new cities.
lux to 10%

IBT Portuguese finish the lighthouse.

2. 1575BC
capital produce worker. lux to 0%

3. 1550BC
lux to 20%

4. 1525BC
lux to 30%
produced another worker. return to capital to settler duty.

IBT - Sumer want all ur gold (15g) I gladly give them.

5. 1500BC
since it was ALL our gold and we were in -1 gpt we lost our barracks in Kyoto.

6. 1475BC
we got ourselves barracks in Tokyo.

7. 1450BC
noticed that there are ruins betwen Sumer and India. they probably (was) at war.

IBT
Dutch complete SoZ.

8. 1425BC
nothing nuch

IBT Sumer is staing the wall - they are up to constructions by now.

9. 1400BC
10. 1375BC
nothing nuch

Summery:
lost barracks due to demands from Sumerians.
founded 2 new cities, one more settler is on route to the silks.
tech speed is flying.
next player can change all.