6 grams: C3C - Diety, with AI Armies (Maybe)
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Turn log
0 1375BC Pre-flight
First look at the game. Everything looks set to press return.
IBT: Amsterdam builds MofM.
1 1350BC
Kagoshima builds Barracks, Chariot started. Satsuma builds Worker, Worker started. We need more Workers.
IBT: Sumerians building the Great Wall.
2 1325BC
Kyoto builds Settler, Settler started.
IBT: Wine connected. Volcano E of Kagoshima erupts.
3 1300BC
Lux to 0%
4 1275BC
Nada
IBT: Paris finish building TofA.
5 1250BC
Nara founded, Curragh started. Pre build for anything we want it to end up as. Lux to 10%.
IBT: Delhi finish building the Great Wall. I would guess that saves India in their war vs. Sumeria.
6 1225BC
Kyoto builds Settler, Settler started.
7 1200BC
Writing finished, Starting philosophy at 100%. I understand this was the team position. 11 turns ATM. Trading? Well, since we are going directly for Philosophy there is little reason to postpone this especially since we can get a pile of gold plus techs. Trade Writing to Sumeria for BW, Masonry, Mysticism and 60 gold. Trade Writing to India for IW and 18 gold. India and Sumeria both lack connected Iron and I can not see any on the revealed portion of the map. They are both up Maths, Poly and WC.
8 1175BC
Nagoya founded, Worker started.
9 1150BC
Osaka builds Granary, Barracks started. Edo builds Granary, Temple started.
10 1125BC
Kyoto builds settler, Settler started. Izumo founded, Worker started.
11 1100BC
Tokyo builds Chariot, Curragh started. Kagoshima builds Chariot, Worker started.
IBT: Sumerians building HG!
12 1075BC
Nada.
13 1050BC
Nada.
14 1025BC
Kyoto builds Settler, Settler started.
15 1000BC
Edo builds Temple, Barracks started. Sumeria just got Map Making.
After action report:
One Settler in position (east), one in transit (west). Philosophy in 2 turns. Silk connected in 2 turns.
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grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
looks good, got it.
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Tone
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grahamiam -> UP
Roster: 24hrs got it, 72hrs play it
Kaiser Berger -> on deck
Tone
M60A3TTS
Mailman
Wotan
grahamiam -> UP
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
If we are first to Philo by some fantastic stroke of luck, what would we take as the freebie? We know the AI has construction and MM. If we take Lit, that would be a tradable asset. At least one Sumerian and Indian city would then be busy building the GLib and not settlers. Otherwise CoL to get to Republic sooner perhaps.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Sometimes Currency is a very nice, tradable asset as well, moreso than Lit. I'll see what's available when it comes up 
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Preflight check: Looks good. We are boxed in by geography only and a little spread out for towns but ok. Switch Edo from Barracks to worker so we can get those BGs mined while building the Rax. We definitely lack workers so Ill try to get that up.
IBT: Osaka barracks -> spear; Tokyo dingy -> worker (MM for growth); Kagoshima worker -> Chariot
T1: 975BC Found Nagasaki -> worker
IBT: Philo, open diplo screen, Trade with India: Math and WC for Philo & 1g; Sumer has Construction already and will only offer 79g for Philo so I wait.
We do not get a free tech.
T2: 950BC Research Lit @ 70%, +1gpt
IBT: Kyoto settler -> warrior (this needs to be a bigger town to help research); Edo worker -> Chariot; Nagoya worker -> worker
T3: 925BC
T4: 900BC
IBT: Kyoto warrior -> settler; Nara Curragh -> worker; Izumo worker -> worker; Sumerians complete HG; Yellow Galley comes out of the fog.
T5: 875BC Meet Egypt, they are up CoL, MM, HBR, Poly, and Construction
A dingy suicides off Izumo towards coastal waters.
Cannot buy HBR or Construction or CoL or MM. Takes nearly our entire economy to buy Poly
IBT: Tokyo worker -> granary; Satsuma barracks -> worker; Suicide dingy sinks.
T6: 850BC Found Shimonoseki up by the choke. An Egyptian warrior/settler pair is nearby.
IBT: Osaka spear -> Temple; Edo chariot -> Archer
T7: 825BC
T8: 800BC Found Matsuyama -> temple (holder for harbor?); Egypt is in the MA
IBT: Kyoto settler -> settler
T9: 775BC Switch Edo to barracks
T10: 750BC Settler is heading West to the tundra choke. Egypt has a town to compete with Shimonoseki for the cow.
Im irrigating grass towards Izumo so we can water the plains out there. We can also fit another town or 2 between Osake, Shimonoseki, and Matsuyama.
Roster: 24hrs got it, 72hrs play it
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grahamiam
IBT: Osaka barracks -> spear; Tokyo dingy -> worker (MM for growth); Kagoshima worker -> Chariot
T1: 975BC Found Nagasaki -> worker
IBT: Philo, open diplo screen, Trade with India: Math and WC for Philo & 1g; Sumer has Construction already and will only offer 79g for Philo so I wait.
We do not get a free tech.
T2: 950BC Research Lit @ 70%, +1gpt
IBT: Kyoto settler -> warrior (this needs to be a bigger town to help research); Edo worker -> Chariot; Nagoya worker -> worker
T3: 925BC
T4: 900BC
IBT: Kyoto warrior -> settler; Nara Curragh -> worker; Izumo worker -> worker; Sumerians complete HG; Yellow Galley comes out of the fog.
T5: 875BC Meet Egypt, they are up CoL, MM, HBR, Poly, and Construction
A dingy suicides off Izumo towards coastal waters.
Cannot buy HBR or Construction or CoL or MM. Takes nearly our entire economy to buy Poly
IBT: Tokyo worker -> granary; Satsuma barracks -> worker; Suicide dingy sinks.
T6: 850BC Found Shimonoseki up by the choke. An Egyptian warrior/settler pair is nearby.
IBT: Osaka spear -> Temple; Edo chariot -> Archer
T7: 825BC
T8: 800BC Found Matsuyama -> temple (holder for harbor?); Egypt is in the MA
IBT: Kyoto settler -> settler
T9: 775BC Switch Edo to barracks
T10: 750BC Settler is heading West to the tundra choke. Egypt has a town to compete with Shimonoseki for the cow.
Im irrigating grass towards Izumo so we can water the plains out there. We can also fit another town or 2 between Osake, Shimonoseki, and Matsuyama.
Roster: 24hrs got it, 72hrs play it
Kaiser Berger -> UP
Tone -> on deck
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grahamiam
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Ok, I've got it.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Just to let you all knowm this weekend has been hectic and I won't be able to get to this until probably Monday. If one of you can hop in before me and take it, feel free.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Well, no problem then. I can re-add this to my queue then. Re-got it.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Preturn- We look alright.
T1 730
Our chariot in SE finds a Dutch settler pair under the fog. They are fully medieval.
T4 670
Great, Sumeria is dominating India, we're going to be stuck on this continent all alone with the 500lb gorilla
T6 630
Sapporo founded. Curragh makes run across the straight.
T7 610
The dinghy survived, we'll have new friends soon.
IT- We get lit. Lit goes to Sumeria with 80g for currency. Lit goes to Egypt for Horseback Riding. Lit goes to Dutch for 170g. Lit, HBR and Currency goes to India for Code of Laws, Polytheism and Map Making.
T8 590
Start research on Republic, due in 30 turns. We meet Greece. They are ahead of us, but knowing them drops the research time on Republic by 4 turns.
T9 570
Hakodate founded.
T10 550
I decide to hire a scientist in Osaka instead of raising the lux for just one city.
Summary
We have expanded further, and gained a good amount of tech from Literature. We need to grab some more land, and determine how we want to deal with Sumeria. They are a real beast.
T1 730
Our chariot in SE finds a Dutch settler pair under the fog. They are fully medieval.
T4 670
Great, Sumeria is dominating India, we're going to be stuck on this continent all alone with the 500lb gorilla
T6 630
Sapporo founded. Curragh makes run across the straight.
T7 610
The dinghy survived, we'll have new friends soon.
IT- We get lit. Lit goes to Sumeria with 80g for currency. Lit goes to Egypt for Horseback Riding. Lit goes to Dutch for 170g. Lit, HBR and Currency goes to India for Code of Laws, Polytheism and Map Making.
T8 590
Start research on Republic, due in 30 turns. We meet Greece. They are ahead of us, but knowing them drops the research time on Republic by 4 turns.
T9 570
Hakodate founded.
T10 550
I decide to hire a scientist in Osaka instead of raising the lux for just one city.
Summary
We have expanded further, and gained a good amount of tech from Literature. We need to grab some more land, and determine how we want to deal with Sumeria. They are a real beast.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Kaiser_Berger said:
Have we spotted any source of iron on the continent?
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
There is one firmly entrenched in Sumerian territory, but I have noticed none neary us unfortunately.
OK, got it and will play tomorrow but a request for some guidance first.
Edu has reached size 6 and will not grow until we can build an aquaduct. Should I switch the build to a settler (and then resume horses) so that the food is not wasted? 9 shields/turn is not a nice number either!
Settlers should go where? Continue with the ice or try and go for the green area around the volcano first?
I would like to move the fortified warrior on the southern chokepoint S to see if there is any iron down there. Any reason why not?
Have we got a plan for if we have no iron and will this affect our current military builds? No civ has any spare and Sumeria appears to have the only source on our continent.
Edu has reached size 6 and will not grow until we can build an aquaduct. Should I switch the build to a settler (and then resume horses) so that the food is not wasted? 9 shields/turn is not a nice number either!
Settlers should go where? Continue with the ice or try and go for the green area around the volcano first?
I would like to move the fortified warrior on the southern chokepoint S to see if there is any iron down there. Any reason why not?
Have we got a plan for if we have no iron and will this affect our current military builds? No civ has any spare and Sumeria appears to have the only source on our continent.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
If Edo cannot be MM'd to 10 spt, then I'd say go ahead.
Settler should grab the best terrain available. Green over ice any day, just don't plant right next to the volcano.
Definitely move the warrior to finish clearing the fog from that area. Maybe we get lucky.
Not sure what the plan is without iron. Play nice with Sumeria for the time being I suppose.
Settler should grab the best terrain available. Green over ice any day, just don't plant right next to the volcano.
Definitely move the warrior to finish clearing the fog from that area. Maybe we get lucky.
Not sure what the plan is without iron. Play nice with Sumeria for the time being I suppose.
turn 0 (550)
Everything looks fine but some town could do with more workers. Just switch Edo to settler and move fortified warr SW to check out the hills.
IBT
Kyoto: Settler>Settler; Edo: settler>horseman; Nagasaki: worker>temple. Dutch are building Leo's!
turn 1 (530)
Settlers southwards.
1>2
Tokyo: gran>settler
2>3
Osaka: horse>horse; Kagoshima:horse>horse; Nagoya:worker>temple
turn 3 (490)
curragh spots unclaimed iron around greek/Egyptian border but I don't fancy our chances against a culture flip! No iron in our extreme south.
4>5
Kyoto:settler>settler; Edo: horse>horse; Nara: worker>harbour; Izumo worker>temple.
5>6
Sapporo: worker>worker.
7>8
Osaka: horse>horse.
8>9
Dutch land in the ice so there's something there (oil?). Decide to claim it this turn!
Kyoto: settler>settler; Edo: horse>settler; Kagoshima: horse>horse.
turn 9 (370)
Build Ise (harbour) and Toyama (temple) in the south and look to block Dutch settler/spear from the grass beyond the ice.
9>10
Satsuma:temple>horse.
turn 10
Tokyo will riot next turn unless action is taken so switch cit to tax and switch build to temple.
As you can see, not a lot happened! I wonder if it will be worth building some markets for commerce or should we continue to build military? We have settlers heading south still but maybe the next ones could utalise some of the tiles we are currently not using closer to our capital. Dutch settler has started moving north so it may try and seize a gap eventually.
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grahamiam
Kaiser Berger
Tone (just played)
Everything looks fine but some town could do with more workers. Just switch Edo to settler and move fortified warr SW to check out the hills.
IBT
Kyoto: Settler>Settler; Edo: settler>horseman; Nagasaki: worker>temple. Dutch are building Leo's!
turn 1 (530)
Settlers southwards.
1>2
Tokyo: gran>settler
2>3
Osaka: horse>horse; Kagoshima:horse>horse; Nagoya:worker>temple
turn 3 (490)
curragh spots unclaimed iron around greek/Egyptian border but I don't fancy our chances against a culture flip! No iron in our extreme south.
4>5
Kyoto:settler>settler; Edo: horse>horse; Nara: worker>harbour; Izumo worker>temple.
5>6
Sapporo: worker>worker.
7>8
Osaka: horse>horse.
8>9
Dutch land in the ice so there's something there (oil?). Decide to claim it this turn!
Kyoto: settler>settler; Edo: horse>settler; Kagoshima: horse>horse.
turn 9 (370)
Build Ise (harbour) and Toyama (temple) in the south and look to block Dutch settler/spear from the grass beyond the ice.
9>10
Satsuma:temple>horse.
turn 10
Tokyo will riot next turn unless action is taken so switch cit to tax and switch build to temple.
As you can see, not a lot happened! I wonder if it will be worth building some markets for commerce or should we continue to build military? We have settlers heading south still but maybe the next ones could utalise some of the tiles we are currently not using closer to our capital. Dutch settler has started moving north so it may try and seize a gap eventually.
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Tone (just played)
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
ok, we need to seriously plan what we are going to do without iron. to me, we have some choices:Tone said:
1. buildup horses and try to rush Sumeria with horse/cat/spear stacks
2. send a settler + spear on a galley and try to get a spot
3. beeline for gunpowder and see if we have salt. if so, then beeline for mil tradition. if not, treb/spear/LB stacks + horses to march on sumeria.
4. play nice and try to buy what we need.
once we decide, then we can decide what to build in our towns. there are probably other choices that this group can think about. let's toss them around as we need to plan to get out of this box
I get the feeling that option 4 may be off the table. Sumeria are massive and don't like us that much. The relations may improve when we become a Republic but sooner or later I think that they will flex their muscles in our direction!
Option 1 interests me if we can attack them whilst they are still at war with India. They've been at war for a while now so they *might* not have quite so many troops as would be otherwise expected and they will probably have most of them around India so we could be hitting them in their soft underbelly. This would be particularly useful if we could keep India plugging away at them. (& Republic may drag them back in if a PT was signed after we attack). On the other hand they may not be far from Gunpowder and horses vs muskets is not fun!
Option 1 interests me if we can attack them whilst they are still at war with India. They've been at war for a while now so they *might* not have quite so many troops as would be otherwise expected and they will probably have most of them around India so we could be hitting them in their soft underbelly. This would be particularly useful if we could keep India plugging away at them. (& Republic may drag them back in if a PT was signed after we attack). On the other hand they may not be far from Gunpowder and horses vs muskets is not fun!
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
well, even if we can't get to the iron and only raze a few cities, it would set them back some. AI plays them well so I'm always happy when they're in the game 
M60 has an excellent sense of strategy, so I'm keenly interested in his thoughts as well. also, maybe Tone can get a snapshot of the iron and pathway to it posted so we can deliberate some more? many thanks
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