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[member66170]

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[Kyriakos]

Minoan/Mycenean don't exist in that timeline; iirc they stop existing near 1000 BC (Mycenae; Minoa ends before that).

For 500 BC-0 AD you do need more than one greek state. It starts ten years before the first greek-persian war, and iirc a few years after the failed revolt in Ionia (with athenian and chalkedan help, and the sacking of Sardeis).

I doubt that Phoenicia has a reason to exist in the timeline either; they were subjugated by Persia, same with Babylon and Egypt. Hittites don't exist either. So either start your timeline earlier, or use civs like Athens/Sparta(or pelop league)/Thebes/Macedonia/Persia/Rome/Carthage/Celts/Ind western greeks(Marseille etc)/others (eg Etruscans, and depending on your map, and you can always have even more greek states, eg in Cyrene in Africa).

Re Egypt, if mechanics allow for it to be a vassal (of Persia), it is still a good choice.

 

[Flying Pig]

You've picked a particularly difficult time-period to model, because the political map from (say) 200 to 1 BC (there is no year 0, incidentally) was shaped by actors that didn't exist in 500 BC. You can get away with including Rome, who didn't do anything particularly interesting until long after 500, but there's no way to get the Successor Kingdoms, and the fact that there was division and warfare between the once-united Macedonian empire is absolutely crucial to making a game that has any chance of making anything post-146 BC in the Eastern Mediterranean playable. So by starting the game in 500 BC, you remove any chance that it will resemble history after about 300 BC, and you've still got two-thirds of the game on the clock.

One option would be to have emerging civilisations as in Rhye's and Fall, which would be complicated but would give you a much better shot at things.

 

[Lexicus]

You should check out Europa Barbarorum, a mod for Rome: Total War, for civ ideas. I would also change the time period to begin just as Alexander's empire falls apart.

 

[W|M]

There's also Europa Barbarorum II, which is a mod for Medieval 2: Total War. EB and EB II start in 272 BC, 51 years after Alexander's death

 

[Arakhor]

There's also Anno Domini, which is a popular and well-supported Ancient World mod for Civ V.

 

[Kyriakos]

There's also Anno Domini, which is a popular and well-supported Ancient World mod for Civ V.

500BC-1AD. "Anno Domini" And i am pretty sure the Anno Domini mod has Boudicca, so even not dwelling on its title one can tell it isn't focused on the same period.

 

[Arakhor]

It also includes the Hyksos, the Ptolemids, the Byzantines, the Carthaginians, various Dark Age powers, Greek city states and Imperial Rome, so there's something for everyone there.

 

[sophie]

Giving My Standard Responses to Questions of this sort:

Which Egypt?
Which Persia?
Which Celt(s)?
Are Macedon and Greece really deserving of separate slots?
How are we defining Rome? Are the Etruscans Roman? Are the Samnites?

How are we defining "civilization" in this thought experiment?

And are we choosing civs teleologically? (i.e. based on who is important to us as Modern westerners, in which case "Hebrews" might make some sense) or are we choosing groups that were prominent and important then (in which case Hebrews weren't really that important in the grand scheme of things).

 

[Flying Pig]

You don't necessarily have to choose with the 'which X?' questions. Certainly in Civ IV, it's possible to have the leaders change over time, so by using custom leader traits and era-specific unique units/buildings, you can easily have (say) New Kingdom and Ptolemaic Egypt represented by the same civilisation without any conflicts or loss of difference.

 

[Arakhor]

The New Kingdom under Ramses II and the Hittite Empire were contemporaries (the world's oldest peace treaty is between the two powers). The Hittites disappeared during the Bronze Age collapse, along with the New Kingdom, and the Third Intermediate Period went on for 300-400 years before the Persians and then the Ptolemids took control.