Yea, took me a few turns to realize they couldn't even move... Right now it seems like I can't get past the turn a scout is being built, and its doing it reliable. Coincidentally, that is exactly the turn it will autosave as well.
A Babylon 5 Mod for the Final Frontier Mod
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Included the savegamefile, but its consistantly crashing at the same point, with or without the scout, don't think there is anything else happening at that turn for me, so can only assume it might be an AI or something similar.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Yeah, that's why I said it's better if you wait for the next version
2.1 has some really annoying bugs in it, so don't expect to play a full game with it
But as PsiCorps said, he has a new and stable version, and will upload it soon. Hopefully tomorrow
2.1 has some really annoying bugs in it, so don't expect to play a full game with it
But as PsiCorps said, he has a new and stable version, and will upload it soon. Hopefully tomorrow
AbsintheRed
Deity
Awesome, I'm dling it right now 
Hope you have fun with it!Awesome, I'm dling it right now
hey guys,
whats up?
i would like to recommend you guys to publish on the front page, a log of every version change.
Its more fun to know whats different from version to version.
it will emphasize all of the work youve done to improve it.
and it helps keeping track on the mod both for you and the players.
great work, keep it up.
whats up?
i would like to recommend you guys to publish on the front page, a log of every version change.
Its more fun to know whats different from version to version.
it will emphasize all of the work youve done to improve it.
and it helps keeping track on the mod both for you and the players.
great work, keep it up.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Yeah, first massive raider fleets came, later drakh cruisers and capitol ships
It's quite fun and occupies the player, but sometimes I thought it's a little much
Have to play more to be sure on this
Also, don't you want to make ships upgradeable? Alpha-Beta-Omega upgrade chain would be nice. At least for gameplay.
I also noticed that right now the alpha ships are stronger then their beta counterparts in a few cases (for example minbari capitol ships). I guess this is a mistake
There are still a lot of small mistakes and further balancing is needed, but overally I'm quite impressed with the latest version!
It's quite fun and occupies the player, but sometimes I thought it's a little much
Have to play more to be sure on this
Also, don't you want to make ships upgradeable? Alpha-Beta-Omega upgrade chain would be nice. At least for gameplay.
I also noticed that right now the alpha ships are stronger then their beta counterparts in a few cases (for example minbari capitol ships). I guess this is a mistake
There are still a lot of small mistakes and further balancing is needed, but overally I'm quite impressed with the latest version!
There was one graphic i saw but can't find it now, will keep trying though.
It's on my to do list, but i lost it lol.
We discarded this idea some time ago as unrealistic within the B5 universe. An EA Artemis doesn't go in for an upgrade and come out looking like an EA Olympus. What we want to do is make a Promotion for the 1st Tier ships that effectively improves the ship so it can stand alongside a 2nd Tier ship in combat and the only difference would be it's appearance. One of many things/ideas on the to do list.
It's not a mistake, it's deliberate and it's all to do with the class of the ship. An Alpha cruiser can take on a Beta Frigate and destroy it but a Beta cruiser only just outclasses an Alpha Battleship. The ships still need to be better spread out on the tech tree and it's yet another job that needs doing but i do little bits of it here and there as i spot something that needs to be done.
The PDS and ODS should not be getting the additional movement points at all but in order to get the AI to build them i had to change its domain from IMMOBILE to LAND. I am trying to get something working that will keep the units within their own borders but that has been giving me problems, hopefully i'll have it in the next update.
Glad to hear its being worked on. What is that ship by the way? Only thing I can really figure out is somehow load the ODS/PDS into it, but don't think I noticed how...
Edit: Idle thought, but is it possible to add a seperate type for them? One that would let you specify the techs to not include?
The unit lost it's ability to load onto the transport when i changed it's domain, if i change the domain that the transport can carry from immobile to land then it will be able to carry all of the ships and i don't think a Transport carrying 4 battleships would be much fun. So, i'll get fixed what i can fix.
BTW, found the transport unit, it's the dropship from Refars Space Above and Beyond unit graphics.
There are no differences between them and i suspect that it appears twice because of the fast construction ship. As it's not a game breaking item i'm not too worried about it at the moment, but from a purely cosmetic point of view it would need to be cleared up at some point.
Edit: The transport button has been changed and all of the Civ's that don't have a race specific transport now have a standard transport that appears totally different to the Colony ship. Also, Starbases are now upgradeable again, the construction ships can't build the mid and late versions so had no choice with this one. Have made a few other changes but plan on making a few more yet.
I want to place a unique building for each race/civ and have some ideas of my own for some of them, does anyone else have any suggestions or ideas?
Greeneyedzombie
King
Been a while since I played the first version. Downloaded it again and played till I almost finished the tech tree. After finishing AI-tech it always crashes at the end of the turn.. 
O.D.P are sort of useless even with all promotions. Beta-destroyers or the first cruisers with 4 combat promotions have a very good chance of winning.
Most of the promotions give interception chance or withdrawal chance. Easily reaching 100% before having all the promotions.
Researching quantum singualarity gives the the promotion to al fighters, misiles and starbases, but not to ships. Intentional?
Shouldn't the mimbari valen be an ISA ship?
The sharlin and Velarian are almost identical in strenght. The Velarian is weaker but requires more techs to research.
O.D.P are sort of useless even with all promotions. Beta-destroyers or the first cruisers with 4 combat promotions have a very good chance of winning.
Most of the promotions give interception chance or withdrawal chance. Easily reaching 100% before having all the promotions.
Researching quantum singualarity gives the the promotion to al fighters, misiles and starbases, but not to ships. Intentional?
Shouldn't the mimbari valen be an ISA ship?
The sharlin and Velarian are almost identical in strenght. The Velarian is weaker but requires more techs to research.
Sorry about not responding sooner. The most important thing for me to do was to get a stable mod that didn't crash after 70 or 80 turns, so balancing the unit strengths has been low down on the list. I hadn't noticed the Quantum singularity giving a promotion to all but the ships so i'll look into that over the weekend. I don't believe the Valen was an ISA ship, as far as i was aware the only true ISA ships were the Excalibur/Victory were the first 2 cruisers to be built by the ISA, the Whitestars were all built by the Minbari before the Shadow War. As the Mod is now a lot more stable i can start to address the issues you have raised here.Been a while since I played the first version. Downloaded it again and played till I almost finished the tech tree. After finishing AI-tech it always crashes at the end of the turn..
O.D.P are sort of useless even with all promotions. Beta-destroyers or the first cruisers with 4 combat promotions have a very good chance of winning.
Most of the promotions give interception chance or withdrawal chance. Easily reaching 100% before having all the promotions.
Researching quantum singualarity gives the the promotion to al fighters, misiles and starbases, but not to ships. Intentional?
Shouldn't the mimbari valen be an ISA ship?
The sharlin and Velarian are almost identical in strenght. The Velarian is weaker but requires more techs to research.
Greeneyedzombie
King
According to this site http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Valen_class_cruiser it was built for the ISA by the mimbari.
Maybe switch it with the velarian, and give it some extra promotions like the whitestar?
Is it possible to build whitestar ships? Im trying to get them, but they never show up in the build menu.
About the O.D.P: Im going to double their strength and give them acces to some of the improved batteries promotions and see how that plays out. As it is now, even the lowly raider is to strong for them.
The veteran ECM promotion is a bit to powerful. It gives immunity to first strikes. And with all the first strikes you can get with all other promotions, you can even fight much stronger ships with ease. I gave 1 sharlincruiser the ecm promotions and 2 combat promotions, and created a barbarian Victory cruiser, gave it al the combat promotions. And it will usually take only 2 sharlins to destroy it. When I give the sharlins only combat promotions the victory is almost untouchable.
Perhaps the immunity should be a separate promotion given with the stealth technology.
Another bug? I've seen is with the starbases. I can only built the alpha starbase. the other ones are not being built when giving order to build a base.
Maybe switch it with the velarian, and give it some extra promotions like the whitestar?
Is it possible to build whitestar ships? Im trying to get them, but they never show up in the build menu.
About the O.D.P: Im going to double their strength and give them acces to some of the improved batteries promotions and see how that plays out. As it is now, even the lowly raider is to strong for them.
The veteran ECM promotion is a bit to powerful. It gives immunity to first strikes. And with all the first strikes you can get with all other promotions, you can even fight much stronger ships with ease. I gave 1 sharlincruiser the ecm promotions and 2 combat promotions, and created a barbarian Victory cruiser, gave it al the combat promotions. And it will usually take only 2 sharlins to destroy it. When I give the sharlins only combat promotions the victory is almost untouchable.
Perhaps the immunity should be a separate promotion given with the stealth technology.
Another bug? I've seen is with the starbases. I can only built the alpha starbase. the other ones are not being built when giving order to build a base.
