A Brave New World III Preview Thread

[bombshoo]

France beats everyone, including Russia because they implode. Italy is a science whore. New England makes big bad navy. Virginia eats up its neighbors. Qubec starts world wars. I think that sums it up.

Does Virginia annexing Miami and part of Georgia and Italy doing some experiments really compete with all of Latin America going communist and the 100 million casualties of the Chinese Civil War?

 

[Anonymoose]

Don't forget the Tunisian pirates!

 

[Crezth]

Does Virginia annexing Miami and part of Georgia and Italy doing some experiments really compete with all of Latin America going communist and the 100 million casualties of the Chinese Civil War?

Yeah, he gave a really West-centric view of ABNW2. Kind of ironic considering how ABNW3 is probably going to go.

 

[Adrogans]

Well its easy to see why I gave a west centric since I played *ahem* Italy and being that Italy was generally insular...then what do I care about China except if I recall they weren't so trustworthy with the pact.

EDIT - You're right though we did have to smack around some Tunisians who though being pirates in the med was fun.

 

[Crezth]

Well its easy to see why I gave a west centric since I played *ahem* Italy and being that Italy was generally insular...then what do I care about China except if I recall they weren't so trustworthy with the pact.

EDIT - You're right though we did have to smack around some Tunisians who though being pirates in the med was fun.

Hahaha that was mad fun.

 

[bombshoo]

Well its easy to see why I gave a west centric since I played *ahem* Italy and being that Italy was generally insular...then what do I care about China except if I recall they weren't so trustworthy with the pact.

EDIT - You're right though we did have to smack around some Tunisians who though being pirates in the med was fun.

China did what it had to do.

 

[Adrogans]

And yet I think you would have been better off. Oh well. No ----- for you!

 

[cwDeici]

Oh sweetness! You did remember me. : )

Confirming New Holland.

PS. Not sure if the Mod has been notified yet, but if not I would like to note I think there may be an error in Tunisia being neutral in the European-African section of conflicts during World War II. I think I've read that they mobilized their army and was about to or were going out when they all got gunned down massively, but I may be mistaken, or perhaps the history has been changed slightly for the updates 1951-1957, I wouldn't know.

 

[mgsmuhammad]

Confirming South Africa..

Pwease? :3

 

[Adrogans]

Oh sweetness! You did remember me. : )

Confirming New Holland.

PS. Not sure if the Mod has been notified yet, but if not I would like to note I think there may be an error in Tunisia being neutral in the European-African section of conflicts during World War II. I think I've read that they mobilized their army and was about to or were going out when they all got gunned down massively, but I may be mistaken, or perhaps the history has been changed slightly for the updates 1951-1957, I wouldn't know.

Personally I think this was because they were crushed so fast they were esentially not involved after one major action. But yes that's not technically neutral.

 

[cwDeici]

Oh, so I got it right then? Good to know, thanks.

EQCivFMod: Can I, as the player of a regional power, trade influence for goods and services from one of the great powers whilst still retaining my nation's regional power status? If yes may I simultaneously equip and service an independent nation for influence?

 

[Anonymoose]

Tunisia's government was neutered after those initial few attacks failed. France came in and would have finished them off if they didn't behave, so it was a forced neutrality. Tunisia was a hemorrhoid on France's African butt. I'm going for the classy analogies today.

 

[Crezth]

Tunisia's government was neutered after those initial few attacks failed. France came in and would have finished them off if they didn't behave, so it was a forced neutrality. Tunisia was a hemorrhoid on France's African butt. I'm going for the classy analogies today.

You would have finished us off? You and what army? The one you scrapped to build that pretty and highly expensive fortress offshore? The fortress that we could have sieged and starved off in a month? Ha!

Oh, I had plans, buddy. Just turns out we had bigger fish to fry.

 

[Anonymoose]

You read that incorrectly. France came in and would have finished them off. Them = Tunisians.
I never referred to Tunisia as 'me', and never referred to France as 'you.' I'm hoping you just misread my post and aren't trying to be rude.

 

[Adrogans]

Yes but here he is speaking as France. And he Imagined you speaking as Tunisia. Like I try to Imagine I speak as Italy. Well in the general sense I mean.

 

[Justo]

Mexico refers to itself in third person to avoid this confusion.

 

[qoou]

Russia refers to itself in the first-person-plural: it won't be long before The Federation comes to represent us all, Russians, French, Germans, etc alike.

OOC:
It's kind of annoying, after being right on the brink of creating an almost-utopian Federation, pacifist to the core, with a large focus on the well-being and happiness of all its habitants, fueled by industry more advanced than anywhere else in the world (and, according to my plan at least, ruled over by a more ideal government, one that has a "council of wise men" (primarily economists, but also sociologists and socio-psychologists) as the supreme power), I am forced to leave the NES, and now I must be the cliché racist, jingoistic empire. Meh. Maybe silver was right, and genocide really is the best option .

 

[Karalysia]

I've never known a problem that I was not able to overcome through genocide (except perhaps depopulation, but I personally guarantee that genocide will solve all other problems. As Stalin said "No man, no problem")

In fact when this NES restarts my goal is to commit a genocide as glorious as in the good old days. It's been too long.

 

[Crezth]

You read that incorrectly. France came in and would have finished them off. Them = Tunisians.
I never referred to Tunisia as 'me', and never referred to France as 'you.' I'm hoping you just misread my post and aren't trying to be rude.

Oh. Oops.

 

[cwDeici]

Guys (this word - to me - includes any girls from here on and out), I have a minor concern I seem to share with you. I don't wish to make any constructive criticism to ModEQ yet (I hope this doesn't count), but I wish to post this and ask your opinion.

Spoiler :

Clearly the second game had too much armor (though I'm not sure if I think they were sufficiently effective in terms of strategic penetration) but to me it seems as if the correction has been excessive.
The Soviet Union at its height, if my memory of my past readings is correct, fielded 60.000 tanks. Being none too charitable I decide to divide arbitrarily (as I do not know much of armor) by four and reach an effective force of 15.000 tanks.

A regular present-day western tank brigade probably numbers roughly 150 tanks, but lets call in generous reserves of 150 and count them as fully effective as well, thus totaling an effective fighting force of 300 tanks (double that of our present day, though I know not of 1980 IRL). All considered multiplying these numbers by the 1980s France in this alternate universe their total armored force would be 6300 tanks.


Granted the Soviet Union had become somewhat fixated by tanks, but the French Imperium is all in all bigger by my metrics of quality, quantity, logistics and production which I think veery roughly makes up for that fixation.


If an armor brigade really does exceed the budget of a small to medium-sized nation I think my infantry will (with the exception of independent air-supported strategic breakthrough coloumns) be doing armour support rather than the other way around and that I will have to husband my armor for the aforementioned breakthroughs in but the most critical of strategic and tactical occasions and plans. I suppose COIN is still on the table though, if we get to repair individually damaged tanks for free and/or destroyed tanks are rounded down at the end of a year.

Oh btw, here's a list of nations that (as far as I could make out) are still available I made to know whom I can't diplo with yet. I thought most would appreciate it for casual reference, though I'd warn and disclaim for you not to go by it.

Spoiler :

Indian Nations
Nez Perce, Lakota Sioux, Fox, Sauk

English America
Deseret, Mississippi, Miami, Pennsylvania

French America
New Jersey

Latin-Native Central America
Belize, El Salvador, Honduras

Latin/English-Settler Central America
Guatemala, Nicaragua

Carribean
Haiti, West Indies

northern South America
Peru, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana

central & southern South America
Bolivia, Paraguay, Chile

Atlantic-side Europe
Ireland, Portugal

Nordic Countries & Baltic Sea
Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia

Central Europe
Bavaria, Bohemia

Balkans
Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania

Eastern Europe
Ukraine

Northern Africa
Egypt

Western Africa
Liberia, Nova Brazil, Togo, Mali

Southern Africa
Ovambia

Levant
Palestine, Jordan, Syria,

Euphrates River & Eastern Plateau & Eastern Boundaries
Kurdistan, Iraq, Persia, Balochistan

Arabian Peninsula
Yemen, Oman

Khorasan
Afghanistan

East Asia
Korea, Kyushu, Japan

Native Oceania
Phillipines, Bugis, Pancasila

White Oceania
New Zeeland