Moff Jerjerrod
Deity
Has anyone used AA guns yet in the epic game?
Do they work and if so how? What are they supposed to do?
Do they work and if so how? What are they supposed to do?
AA guns...do they work?
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Ivan the Kulak
King
Yes, they work. They attack any aircraft that attacks the tile they are on. They have a chance to damage/destroy aircraft, and they work best in stacks, so build plenty, and supplement them with fighters in your cities. If you have spies, keep a close eye on your enemies' armies, and if they start building lots of bombers, build even more flak/mobile SAMs. Air power is a whole new thing in C3C.
Moff Jerjerrod
Deity
Ah I see. So like any other artillery they must be used in number to be effective.
Stick to fighters as your main defense against air attacks near your cities, but use the AA with your armies on the move. As Ivan mentions the AA works only when an aircraft attacks the same tile, whereas fighters protect a large area while doing air superiority. AA is not really necessary (but every bit can help) when you have fighter cover, but armies on the move don't always have that benefit.
One advantage of the AA is that it can provide anti-bomber support to a city under fire in one turn, while rebase+superiority will take two turns to set up. Unlike artillery AA will actually defend itself which is sort of significant.
One advantage of the AA is that it can provide anti-bomber support to a city under fire in one turn, while rebase+superiority will take two turns to set up. Unlike artillery AA will actually defend itself which is sort of significant.
Moff Jerjerrod
Deity
Good points phizuol. 
SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
Isn't it only destroy them? I have only seem the planes be destroyed.
TheNiceOne
Emperor
I cannot speak for AA, since I haven't got C3C yet (on my wishlist for christmas). But at least fighters on air superiority mission can be damaged just like other units.
Masquerouge
Deity
Mmmh AA units, in my C3C epic games, destroyed planes and did not damage them. But that's hardly a proof. 
HamaticBabylon
Deity
This AA gun feature adds more "realism" to the game.
Does any one remember when the first cruise missile hit Baghdad I could here AA guns being shot at an F-15 fighter....you can't blame the Iraqis for not trying?
Does any one remember when the first cruise missile hit Baghdad I could here AA guns being shot at an F-15 fighter....you can't blame the Iraqis for not trying?
Ivan the Kulak
King
Actually, it's quite possible to shoot down an F-15 with modern AA guns. I refer here to the blown out roboticized weapons like our Phalanx guns. Though, I doubt the Iraqis have (had?) anything like this.
During my testing with AA I noticed one bomber had been knocked down into the yellow, but it got back to base so I assumed it had run into flak, but survived. The only other thing it could have been from is enemy bombers, but as I think they would have hit the mech infantry first, I don't think it was bomber damage.
During my testing with AA I noticed one bomber had been knocked down into the yellow, but it got back to base so I assumed it had run into flak, but survived. The only other thing it could have been from is enemy bombers, but as I think they would have hit the mech infantry first, I don't think it was bomber damage.
I have often bombed a city and hit aircraft on the ground (most satisfying when it is an enemy FIGHTER being destroyed).
Azik Blaze
Chieftain
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For scenario-building purposes: can anyone tell me what the AA attribute clashes against? Is it the bombers Bombardment points or its Attack points or what... 
It is ASSUMED that the AA compares with the defense strength of the offending aircraft, and that is why the stealth aircrafts' defense strength was increased from PTW.
HamaticBabylon
Deity
The "phalanx gun" is used on war ships and on the u.s.s navy carriers. My point is that this perticular AA gun is a naval only weapon.So i don't understand why you have menced this weapon,since the iraqis only have ground to Air missiles.
Ivan the Kulak
King
Yes, phalanx is a naval weapon. The point is, such weapons systems exist and can lay it down on low flying fighters. Missiles are much more efficient though.
In late WW2 battleships escorted the carriers mostly to provide beefed-up AA defense (they were bristling with 20mm, 40mm, and 5inch guns). After the 1950s the battleships that remained in service had the vast majority of AA guns removed, and haven't had anything better than the Phalanx CIWS (and that's intended for point-blank missile defense more than shooting down aircraft).
So, to answer your question, yes, and no.
