Accelerated Production: is it cheating?
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Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
its not exactly the 'good' way to win, but i wouldnt call it cheating.
SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
I really don't consider AP cheating. It just makes the game faster and the AI gets it too.
ThePrankMonkey
mowing em' down!
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i dont know why anyone would consider it cheating to begin with.
its only cheating if you have some over on the other "players" and since the other civs take advantage of the AP option, its equal and fair. it does make for faster play i admit and i use it every time although i might not once to remind myself how painfully slow it is to play a regular game.
maybe to a purist it would be cheating but its an option in the game originallly, not like YOU put it there.
i say nay! it is not cheating.
its only cheating if you have some over on the other "players" and since the other civs take advantage of the AP option, its equal and fair. it does make for faster play i admit and i use it every time although i might not once to remind myself how painfully slow it is to play a regular game.
maybe to a purist it would be cheating but its an option in the game originallly, not like YOU put it there.
i say nay! it is not cheating.
Gengis Khan
Deity
Definatly not cheating.
However it does make the game much easier to win. The AI is moronic enough when it comes to build strategy for each town, and now instead of wasting 15 "normal" shields per turn in a city they'll waste 20 or so "inflated" sheilds.
However it does make the game much easier to win. The AI is moronic enough when it comes to build strategy for each town, and now instead of wasting 15 "normal" shields per turn in a city they'll waste 20 or so "inflated" sheilds.
Bamspeedy
CheeseBob
It isn't cheating.
I only despise the people who 'brag' about what time they launch their spaceship or how soon they got techs or built up troops/wonders, number of cities, etc. and then forget to tell us they used accelerated production.
I only despise the people who 'brag' about what time they launch their spaceship or how soon they got techs or built up troops/wonders, number of cities, etc. and then forget to tell us they used accelerated production.
patronr383
Shepherd of People
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it is absolutely not cheating. if u dont have alot of time or just want to finish a game faster, ap is the only way to do it.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
i think its for those of us who just want a quicker paced game, i have even used it from time to time. 
Desmond Hawkins
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You have 4000 CFC posts, and you are still a mere Warlord?
cracker
Gil Favor's Sidekick
Pug,
It's definately not "cheating" but you need to recognize that you are not playing the same game in many ways.
The accelerated production shifts the balance of the costs versus production/commerce values in the game but does not alter the task completion and movement cycles. The AI is not programmed to recognize that AP is engaged so they basically continue to lock in on their usual production objectives.
It doesn't take forever to play a normal game once you home in on a few key game play skills like Bamspeedy's settler factories and the basics of worker task managment and terrain assessment.
Just maintain a balance. If AP is fun for you then play some games that way. Don't become to atrophied to AP games on warlord or you will trap yourself there. There are aspects of the game that only play well when you get to Monarch or Emperor level where the AI players have some advantages to offset their built in propensity to make the same old mistakes over and over again. Remember that the AI wastes about 30% of its worker task moves, so you have to make some fairly deliberate bad decisions to equal this level of waste on any level below Monarch.
It's definately not "cheating" but you need to recognize that you are not playing the same game in many ways.
The accelerated production shifts the balance of the costs versus production/commerce values in the game but does not alter the task completion and movement cycles. The AI is not programmed to recognize that AP is engaged so they basically continue to lock in on their usual production objectives.
It doesn't take forever to play a normal game once you home in on a few key game play skills like Bamspeedy's settler factories and the basics of worker task managment and terrain assessment.
Just maintain a balance. If AP is fun for you then play some games that way. Don't become to atrophied to AP games on warlord or you will trap yourself there. There are aspects of the game that only play well when you get to Monarch or Emperor level where the AI players have some advantages to offset their built in propensity to make the same old mistakes over and over again. Remember that the AI wastes about 30% of its worker task moves, so you have to make some fairly deliberate bad decisions to equal this level of waste on any level below Monarch.
AP is way easier if you start fighting in the industrial or modern age.
Why? Tech progresses so fast that you can tech to the next combat advance before they get units to your territory or worse, you will build city improments while the AI will fight and you will get an unfair advantage.
Why? Tech progresses so fast that you can tech to the next combat advance before they get units to your territory or worse, you will build city improments while the AI will fight and you will get an unfair advantage.
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
Did the creators include the option in the game - yes.
Does the AI get the same benefits - yes.
Are you using it to crush the Babylonians - yes.
If you answer yes to all these questions, than it is not cheating.
I use AP. Why wait? The game takes long enough as it is.
AP is most definitely *NOT* a cheat. However, to compare your progress in an AP game, with somebody else's progress in a non-AP game is comparing apples to oranges - they are *not* the same game. 
I use AP, and I tend to forget it when reading and comparing to others games. That's a problem, and should be consider dheating if the other person dont know you're talking about an AP-game.
But I use it cause CIv3 takes to long already, whick is why I love those close encounter games, with tiny maps, panganea, 80& water, 23 opponents. That's action, baby!
But I use it cause CIv3 takes to long already, whick is why I love those close encounter games, with tiny maps, panganea, 80& water, 23 opponents. That's action, baby!
Martacus
World's Greatest Warrior
I use AP every now and then. I'm a culture/research hound; I play the Babylonians almost all the time (in SMAC I'm always Uni) and AP really helps with that. I know it is kind of cheap, but I like using it.
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
have you tried 31 yet?
