Adding the Ministry of Finance and Labor(Informal)

[GenMarshall]

Ministry of Finance and Labor poll

Discussion thread

Ministry of Finance and Labor

Constitution Changes:
Article D:
Add: 5. The Minister of Finance and Labor is responsible for all financial matters and managing the Fanatican workforce, as prescribed by law.

Change: Change the number of advisors from 4 to 5.

Code of Laws Changes:

Section B.1:
Remove: 1.d Is responsible for worker activities.
Renumber all succeeding sections.

Section B.2:
Change: a. ... Leaders of the 5 Departments

Add: i. Ministry of Finance and Labor
1. Is responsible for determining the slider settings
2. Is responsible for determining all uses of cash
3. Is responsible for all worker activities

Section C.1
Remove: a.2.A. At-Large Governors
a.2.b VP votes on ties
c. Slider votes
d. Cash Requests

Section C.3
Remove: entire section

Section F.3
Add: f. Minister of Finance and Labor
Renumber: all sections below (starting with Chief Justice)

Remove: i. At-Large Governors

Section G
Add: g. Minister of Finance and Labor

Code of Standards Changes:
Section J.3.d
Remove: 2 At-Large Governors

Im not sure how long Consitutional polls last, but Ill set it for 3 days.

 

[Sarevok]

Vote Yes on this.

 

[GenMarshall]

I also voted yes onto this proposal

 

[tao]

I vote no because it is completely unclear to me what "responsible for all worker activities" means. And I strongly believe that a capable Governor knows best how to coordinate workers and cities.

I would have agreed with the financial part.

 

[Rik Meleet]

for the same reasons tao expresses and since this goes against our vote that we only have 4 offices I voted abstain

I'm also not convinced of the legality of this poll.

Let there be no mistake; I am a strong supporter of this ministry, but I don't think this is clear and legal enough.

 

[Chieftess]

Originally posted by tao
I vote no because it is completely unclear to me what "responsible for all worker activities" means. And I strongly believe that a capable Governor knows best how to coordinate workers and cities.

I would have agreed with the financial part.

How can that be unclear? If you have 10 workers, you're in charge of 10 workers. If one worker is built/captured, you're in charge of that, too. Worker actions are those little buttons you press in the game.

 

[ravensfire]

Sorry CG - not a legal poll. As this hits the CoL and CoS, it must be reviewed by the Judiciary.

Also, there are still questions that should be answered. I've pulled back to see if anyone else would step up and push this. Time to get back in.

-- Ravensfire

 

[GenMarshall]

Originally posted by ravensfire
Sorry CG - not a legal poll. As this hits the CoL and CoS, it must be reviewed by the Judiciary.

Also, there are still questions that should be answered. I've pulled back to see if anyone else would step up and push this. Time to get back in.

-- Ravensfire

Its ok Raven, I have posted this poll since everyone was asking "Where's the Poll?".

*CivGeneral starts to think about Wendy's "Where's the beef" ad

 

[donsig]

Hmmm... how would this affect the Senate's authority over the slider's and cash requests?

And, more importantly, why are you impersonating the CJ CG?

 

[tao]

If I look at the interim result, I very much regret that my Judicial Review Request tao_jr_1 on how to comply with poll results was not yet addressed.

Alternatives I see are:

1. Only alternatives getting at least 50% of the votes are accepted.
2. Votes cascade from most stringent to lesser alternatives and the first with 50% is executed.
3. If no alternative gets 50%, nothing is done.
4. The alternative getting the most votes is done.
5. The DP is free to do as (s)he damn well pleases.
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[ybbor]

Originally posted by donsig
And, more importantly, why are you impersonating the CJ CG?

it's the great CFC avatar switch! don't you notice mroe than CG has switched avatars?

 

[GenMarshall]

Originally posted by donsig
And, more importantly, why are you impersonating the CJ CG?

Look at the bottom of my Sig, it should link you to the thread in OT entitled " The Great CFC Avatar Switch". Peri and I are partisipating in this event .

I guess only a few posters from the DG ever venture into the relm of OT .

 

[ravensfire]

Originally posted by CivGeneral


Look at the bottom of my Sig, it should link you to the thread in OT entitled " The Great CFC Avatar Switch". Peri and I are partisipating in this event .

I guess only a few posters from the DG ever venture into the relm of OT .

He could also be referring to you posting this poll, when it should be the CJ after a Judicial Review of the proposal.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Chieftess]

Originally posted by donsig
Hmmm... how would this affect the Senate's authority over the slider's and cash requests?

And, more importantly, why are you impersonating the CJ CG?

Read Off-Topic for a change, and you'll know.

 

[GenMarshall]

Originally posted by ravensfire


He could also be referring to you posting this poll, when it should be the CJ after a Judicial Review of the proposal.

-- Ravensfire

The Avatar change for "The Great CFC Avatar Change!" Happened at noon today GMT. I posted this poll before the event started.

 

[ravensfire]

Originally posted by CivGeneral


The Avatar change for "The Great CFC Avatar Change!" Happened at noon today GMT. I posted this poll before the event started.

You're not reading my post correctly. The Chief Justice (Peri) posts polls to amend the CoL/Cos. Period. Nobody else.

-- Ravensfire

 

[GenMarshall]

Originally posted by ravensfire


You're not reading my post correctly. The Chief Justice (Peri) posts polls to amend the CoL/Cos. Period. Nobody else.

-- Ravensfire

Raven, I would appreciate it that you stop bashing me. And I did read your post correctly. I am starting not to like this demogame. Now everyone is pointing at eachother's mistakes and becomming angry with each other.

By the tone of your post, it sounds more like you are putting angist on me that I do not want.

 

[GenMarshall]

To make this poll Legal, I am downgrading it to an Informal-Poll.

 

[Sarevok]

Then let us get it reviewed by the judiciary first before we make the formal one if that is required.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Originally posted by CivGeneral


Raven, I would appreciate it that you stop bashing me. And I did read your post correctly. I am starting not to like this demogame. Now everyone is pointing at eachother's mistakes and becomming angry with each other.

By the tone of your post, it sounds more like you are putting angist on me that I do not want.

Relax, CG. I don't think there is any bashing going on. Ravensfire just wants to make sure things are done correctly. You know how we Fanaticans are with laws.

Thanks for taking the ball and running with it though, even though the untimely capture of Peri's avatar(and caption) made the whole thing look shady.

BTW, should this now fall in the lap of T4 CJ zorven?