After the Launch

[Eclipse4449]

I honestly was just hoping to learn more about them without having to dive into a thread devoted to Corps, I hoped it would cause an issue.

As for your question on balancing against such a thing, the game would announce it was built and cause a search for it, once discovered that player is targeted.

I don't have much experience in the Modern Era but I know how to use a Spy, Bombers, Carriers, Missles etc. Just starting with 2 Caravels opens up several possible starting strategies, it's hard to defend against Spies without Spies of your own, there really is a lot here.

And the Big Picture is you don't want me to get the Spartans Leader in the Planet Fall Game!! Just an example.

 

[Mitchum]

I will do my best to balance the strategic resources but had put zero thought into balancing the corporation resources. That's would be tough. In fact, I hadn't put too much thought into corporations. Should we just state that they aren't allowed? Or, if they are allowed, it has to be founded with a self-generated GP and not one of the three you start with...

 

[Hercules90]

I am content that they are not allowed but can that be done by simply everyone agreeing not to found a corporation.

 

[Nighthawk419]

Yeah either they shouldn't be allowed or it needs to be founded with a self-generated GP. But that could be tough to police. Banning them is probably easier.

Like Eclipse, I generally do not have as much experience with the modern age in this game (part of the reason I like this scenario!) but especially not with corporations. The little bit I do know does involve modern warfare though Watch out Knoedel you slippery snake!

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

The little bit I do know does involve modern warfare though Watch out Knoedel you slippery snake!

Tsk tsk, this from the same guy that always goes around claiming he wouldn´t hold a grudge from one game to another.

Btw would it be in order to keep a grudge from this game to the actual Planetfall game?

 

[Nighthawk419]

Tsk tsk, this from the same guy that always goes around claiming he wouldn´t hold a grudge from one game to another.

Btw would it be in order to keep a grudge from this game to the actual Planetfall game?

That's just a warning saying to watch out because I know how to defend myself, thats all

And yes, I think that would most definitely be appropriate, they are two games, but definitely interconnected. Grudges and problems from the first game should carry over to the second.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

Interesting...

I can already see you choosing the opposing leader to me (i.e. Miriam to my Zhakarov or Morgan to my Deirdre) after being left in the dust by my rocketship just to spite me.

 

[Hercules90]

Excuse me!

The discussion still is about whether we ban Corporations or not. From comments so far it looks like we ban them.

 

[Eclipse4449]

And yes, I think that would most definitely be appropriate, they are two games, but definitely interconnected. Grudges and problems from the first game should carry over to the second.

Bingo! Yes carry grudges and also alliances! You will find that the Leaders in Planet Fall are so strong (in their particular strength) that an alliance you form on earth can be hindered on PF if you do not help them be second to launch, provided your first of course. (I hope that made sence)

@Hercules and everyone
I'm not a fan of limiting options/strategies in a game like Corporations but at the same time I can see Corporations being allowed could cause a problem(s) so I too vote ban Corporations.

If this was a real life situation these 7 nations I would think would work together on this common goal but we here are think of how we'll survive on a unknown planet and doing that in 1 of 7 ways ie science, might, religiously etc.
Imagine for example an alliance between a economist and a scientist? But not to worry, if I am last to launch and I/you are left with the last Leader, you have been gifted a Challenge and I think a Challenge is what we all Love!!

 

[Calanthian]

Guys a suggestion from the side line:

What could be a nice 'spill over' from game 1 to game 2:

1. each player gets his best 10 troops to travel with him to Alpha Centauri.
With all upgrades which can be 'translated' into Alpha Centauri troops and upgrades.

(a neutral party assigns these units and upgrades to the map)
(this gives instant immersion in the new game)

 

[Calanthian]

There is even the option to let some CIVICS spill over.

It would be curious to see if a former POLICE STATE would become DEIRDRE.. etc. etc.

 

[Eclipse4449]

Ahh you do have back ground knowledge, thanks for the ideas but maybe starting the Spartans (Warmonger Faction) with an assortment of strong units early in the game would extremely good but on the other hand give them to Morgan(economic)/PeaceKeepers these same units would cave his economy (high maintenance cost for units.

But I did have something I was thinking about, 1) Swapping out the Portraits, Gandhi could emerge well enough as the PeaceKeepers, they sort of look alike but at Planet Fall but when Ragner of the Vikings emerges from the Interstelar space flight as DEIRDRE, well that would be a hoot!!!

2) This idea coming from another game, for a time I had a Woodsman Swordsman promote up to a Level 8 before he died on a Hill, it was epic! If there was a way to DOUBLE COMBAT experience via line of code, I would suggest this to our players with much eagerness, yet this like your idea has its drawback, a few of the Factions aren't Warrior types and would not benefit from the change unless you would dig deeper into why.

The thing is, these Factions start out with just a Colony Pod and a scout. From there whom ever they've choosen is going to be a Great challenge just that way. The Morgan player will probably train 3 melee units just like he might always have done only to find out the cost is killing him (1 unit per city in more cities than anyone else and secures protection threw another player for a COST OF CREDITS. DEIRDRE uses here weak units to capture the planet's wildlife which free of unit maintenence and time to train, she could amass a huge free army that could easily counter the Spartan.

anyway it's great we are thinking about this!!!!

 

[Calanthian]

A simple answer to this is giving these units the promotion which reduces unit maintenance dramatically (forgot the exact name).
BTW this can even be altered to 0% maintenance in the mod file.

Modern / siege tanks, helicopters / choppers, submarines and heavy infantry units are units which exist in both Civ4 and in the Planetfall mod.

This may even enhanced further by letting the Great General join his Planetfall unit.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

I think you guys are overthinking this, nothing should swap over but rivalries methinks.

 

[Eclipse4449]

A simple answer to this is giving these units the promotion which reduces unit maintenance dramatically (forgot the exact name).
BTW this can even be altered to 0% maintenance in the mod file.

Modern / siege tanks, helicopters / choppers, submarines and heavy infantry units are units which exist in both Civ4 and in the Planetfall mod.

This may even enhanced further by letting the Great General join his Planetfall unit.

Well its a good thought but you really can't 0 out maintenance cost or Morgan would become a Warrior not to mention the benefit Deirdre would get from normal units mixed with Mindworms more so than the norm,

I think its best we leave it as it is and concentrate on answering any questions Mitchum might have as he builds the map.

 

[Hercules90]

Well its a good thought but you really can't 0 out maintenance cost or Morgan would become a Warrior not to mention the benefit Deirdre would get from normal units mixed with Mindworms more so than the norm,

I think its best we leave it as it is and concentrate on answering any questions Mitchum might have as he builds the map.

I agree, but it was worth exploring.

Also I agree with Imp. Knoedel. The only thing that should carry over is rivalries.

 

[Mitchum]

I haven't forgotten about you guys. I'm on holiday this week. I'll start working on the map next week...

 

[Mitchum]

OK. I'm finally back and I have some time so I'm going to start working on the map. I can start but I still need olivertownshend's great people choices...

 

[Mitchum]

Should I start the game with the Buffy mod? I use that all the time because it's required for GOTM/SGOTM games. I can use no mod, but Buffy does provide some pretty cool features.

 

[Natuland]

I'm with whatever everyone else wants, if we do go with it will I need to download it?