AI: Move troops from border or declare war

[Trigan Emperor]

What are the exact circumstances that trigger the AI to issue this ultimatum? Especially,

- number of troops
- location of troops - on border tile, distance from AI city?

What are the consequences for agreeing to remove troops? Can't declare war for certain amount of turns? Or increased grievances for declaring war?

 

[Tampico]

As far as I can tell, it seems to trigger as soon as you have any troops within 1 tile of their territory. Seemingly even if you are in your own territory at the time, but I could be wrong on that one.

 

[Trigan Emperor]

As far as I can tell, it seems to trigger as soon as you have any troops within 1 tile of their territory. Seemingly even if you are in your own territory at the time, but I could be wrong on that one.

Thanks.

What about Open Borders? Do they allow one to move whole armies of troops through another Empire without complaint?

I was in an Emergency war, and moved my troops through the territory of another civ who was part of the Emergency response, and I got the "Move Troops or Declare War" complaint from them. I think I had Open Borders with them, but can't be sure. I then formed a formal Alliance with them, in any case.

Out of courtesy, I explore other Empires I have Open Borders with using scout recon units, and I've not received any complaints from the AI while doing so.

 

[Tech Osen]

What about Open Borders? Do they allow one to move whole armies of troops through another Empire without complaint?

Yes

I was in an Emergency war, and moved my troops through the territory of another civ who was part of the Emergency response, and I got the "Move Troops or Declare War" complaint from them. I think I had Open Borders with them, but can't be sure. I then formed a formal Alliance with them, in any case.

This is wierd. You can only move your troops through a rivals territory with open borders or when at war. You should only get that warning when you have troops near their border. Maybe it's the emergency bugging out?

 

[Victoria]

What are the exact circumstances that trigger the AI to issue this ultimatum? ,

I did a load of tests about a year ago, did not get to the bottom of it but it seems based on how they feel about you.
A fairly neutral civ will not get upset about 1 troop on their border, at least not for a long time... but 2 will trigger the request after a few turns. If you are 1 tile away, 3 troops to trigger in the same time period and at 2 tiles I think it was 5. These values lower drastically if some or all are within your borders.

moved my troops through the territory of another civ who was part of the Emergency

Yeah, same, always happens so reckon it’s bad code.

 

[Trigan Emperor]

I did a load of tests about a year ago, did not get to the bottom of it but it seems based on how they feel about you.
A fairly neutral civ will not get upset about 1 troop on their border, at least not for a long time... but 2 will trigger the request after a few turns. If you are 1 tile away, 3 troops to trigger in the same time period and at 2 tiles I think it was 5. These values lower drastically if some or all are within your borders.
Yeah, same, always happens so reckon it’s bad code.

Thanks for the info and testing.