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I think she looks better with that brown hair.
That happens quite often but it's because Hollywood insists on imposing the blondening on everyone.

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I'm struck by the thought that all these mega-sequel pictures really would do better as miniseries. Basically the plan is to put in a lot of fanservice and parcel out the plot elements among the distinct quanta of fanservice and then half of it ends up on the cutting-room floor. With a miniseries you have enough time to actually develop a plot but you don't get those cancerous 40-plotlines-a-year that a full-length series demands.

It was briefly proven by the Sarah Connor Chronicles series with the Terminator undead franchise and some of the new Star Wars series material almost meets standards with that (one day I might catch up with The Mandalorian, finally, spoilers nowtihstanding). The three numbered sequels remain unsalvageable, but one cannot have everything.
 
More and more, I am finding that Din embodies the worst parts of Worf's character from Star Trek. He exists as a fanatical adherent to the written-word traditions of his people, constantly making a fool out of himself and not actually being all that impressive. Whereas Worf changes in DS9, grows, and is surrounded by people who tell him he's being stupid, Din has no such luck and continues to just be bad at everything with nonsensical beliefs that don't change.

At least Bo Katan is cool.

I don't care about Grogu anymore. Get this dude outta here. I hope he's at the Temple when Kylo Ren wreaks havoc there.

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I've been making myself finally sit through Star Wars Resistance. The main characters are unlikable caricatures, which in turn makes it difficult to care about them. Torra and Synara are nice though, and I like the episodes they're in. There's a moment during the finale for season one that is meant to be impactful, not unlike the big moments in Rebels, but they fumbled the ball and it landed weakly. It doesn't help that there are a lot of pointless episodes that serve very little purpose given the aforementioned caricature issue. You can be fairly confident that the main cast will experience no character growth of any kind, which may be fine if they are fully realized individuals, but they aren't.

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And lastly, The Bad Batch. This season is a mess. It has no idea what it wants to be. When it focuses on the Empire's betrayal of the clones, it's quite nice, but otherwise it's noise—and not the good kind of noise.
 
I don't care about Grogu anymore. Get this dude outta here. I hope he's at the Temple when Kylo Ren wreaks havoc there.
FWIW, Filoni had this to say in a recent THR article:

[THR] Have you figured out where Grogu is during the sequel trilogy?

[Dave Filoni]
That’s a great question, and we talk about many different things. That’s a question for a bunch of characters by the way, not just Grogu. Where are they during these events? If anything, having made The Clone Wars and weaving a tale so intricately between two movies that were much closer together, I’ve learned that there’s expansive room in this galaxy for us to tell stories and have characters doing things.

As a kid, when Yoda said, “When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be,” to Luke, I took that very literally. Well, now we know that’s anything but true. There are many different people that could wield the force, and maybe Luke is the last Jedi as far as what Yoda would consider a Jedi. So we’ll just have to wait and see how the story evolves and what makes sense. But in my experience, there’s definitely a way to weave everything together and make it exciting. It’s possible it would never even have to cross over with what we saw [in the sequel trilogy] if the story has us somewhere else.
 
The golden green goose will not be burning up in no temple, more likely he will be whizzing into movie-verse one day.


Grogu, this is your destiny! Is it time to bring The Mandalorian to multiplexes?

As Lucasfilm prepares to reveal the plan for the next phase of Star Wars movies and lure fans back to the big screen, the epic Disney+ series could be just what they are looking for

It’s an exciting time to be a Star Wars fan, particularly if you live in the UK. The new season of The Mandalorian just debuted its first episode on Disney+, revealing (minor spoiler alert!) that Din Djarin and Grogu must journey to the ruined planet of Mandalore in the hope of receiving redemption after the former removed his helmet one too many times and was silly enough to admit it to the Armorer. Moreover, Star Wars Celebration is coming to London next month, and we are promised Disney/Lucasfilm is finally going to start revealing what the plan is for the next phase of Star Wars movies.
So after the incredible disappointment of 2019’s The Rise of Skywalker – a movie that managed the remarkable feat of making many Star Wars fans wonder why they should ever bother entering the multiplex again – we’ll soon start to get an idea of how the studio plans to get us thrilled for the prospect of a new ream of far-out, big-screen space battles. Will we discover that Damon Lindelof’s reported writer’s room has spawned the next Star Wars chapter, or find out that Taika Waititi has finally delivered on his own proposed episode? Or will there just be more Disney+ spin-offs based on old characters from the original trilogy that we never quite knew we wanted, but will probably lap up nonetheless just for the prospect of seeing our childhoods gorgeously recycled?

Nobody quite knows, because we live in such a strange time for Star Wars, and indeed Hollywood, as we know it. In 2023, Harrison Ford is a TV star who only makes movies occasionally (the forthcoming Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny being a rare exception), and the biggest, genuine bona fide action movie star on the planet is a guy who was known only for the sound of his voice until recently, and also spends most of his time in small screen ventures.
I’m talking of course about Pedro Pascal, who was this week described by Mandalorian creator Jon Favreau as “having a moment” after a long career playing smaller roles.

“We just hired him because we were fans of his work [in] Narcos and Game of Thrones,” Favreau said. “He’s been at it for a while, and what we really liked about him was that he was a journeyman actor who always did a great part. He really picked great projects to be a part of, he always stood out. We knew that he could ground and add humanity to a character that was otherwise a mask, somebody that we knew you wouldn’t see his face, and if and when you did that, it had to mean something. He had to deliver a lot in a few moments.

Added Favreau, of Pascal’s increasing notoriety thanks to The Mandalorian and zombie saga The Last of Us: “People are starting to associate his name with his performances and his face. Of course, now as he’s doing talkshows, people are getting to know the person, as well as the characters. So, he’s having a moment, and I’m glad that we’re able to be a part of that.”

What’s been notable about Lucasfilm’s pronouncements on the future of Star Wars is that while the prospect of The Mandalorian jumping to the multiplexes has been regularly teased, we still don’t know for sure if it’s going to happen. And the studio is facing a quandary here.

Watching episode one of the third season of Favreau’s show, it feels like Din Djarin and Grogu have only just begun their journey. We know very little about the tiny force-sensitive creature’s past, his home planet and why his race seems to have produced two of the most powerful Jedi (or neo-Jedi) in the known galaxy. And from the look of season three, it doesn’t look like The Mandalorian is particularly keen on delving into these issues anytime soon. This is going to be a very long and intriguing game.


Yet Pascal is clearly ready for movie stardom. His time has come. So Disney needs to find a way to do what has never really been done before and transfer Mando to the big screen without ruining the episodic saga that everyone has come to love him for in the first place.



Could the solution be some kind of spin-off that doesn’t affect the main arc of Favreau’s show, but with our hero front and centre? Perhaps a prequel set in an earlier period of the bounty hunter’s life? But that would rule out the involvement of Grogu, and frankly, nobody would watch it.

The history of movies based on successful TV shows is incredibly chequered. Often the studios involved manage to completely lose the tone of the original small screen saga in the process of trying to make it seem bigger and better for the multiplex. The Mandalorian, on the other hand, already feels grandly, luxuriously cinematic – this is already an epic, widescreen tale: the very definition of space opera. Like Luke Skywalker in Return of the Jedi, it feels ready to achieve its destiny. And all that means that if Lucasfilm can’t find a way to pull off a miraculous Jedi mind trick next month and bring Din Djarin to the big screen, it will feel like something of a missed opportunity.
 
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More and more, I am finding that Din embodies the worst parts of Worf's character from Star Trek. He exists as a fanatical adherent to the written-word traditions of his people, constantly making a fool out of himself and not actually being all that impressive. Whereas Worf changes in DS9, grows, and is surrounded by people who tell him he's being stupid, Din has no such luck and continues to just be bad at everything with nonsensical beliefs that don't change.

At least Bo Katan is cool.

I don't care about Grogu anymore. Get this dude outta here. I hope he's at the Temple when Kylo Ren wreaks havoc there.

In season 2, I thought it was terrific when he met up with Princess Starbuck and found out he belonged to a breakaway sect of fanatics. Honestly, I thought it was the best part of the season, with a great opportunity to turn the character's world on its head and drive him on a path to growth and change. So, it's good to know that they did next to nothing with this and apparently aren't this season either judging by your post.

As a kid, when Yoda said, “When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be,” to Luke, I took that very literally.

Pretty sure it was meant to be taken literally at the time, Laurana. :)

Grogu, this is your destiny! Is it time to bring The Mandalorian to multiplexes?

I know that websites need to make copy, but this would be an awful idea for disney. Mando succeeded because it was a good show that came out when people were stuck at home with their kids. Trying to squeeze a billion $ box office out of it would be problematic at best. Nobody there has forgotten the returns on Solo. Regardless of whether Mando ❤️ Baby Yoda turned out to be a good movie or not.
 
In season 2, I thought it was terrific when he met up with Princess Starbuck and found out he belonged to a breakaway sect of fanatics. Honestly, I thought it was the best part of the season, with a great opportunity to turn the character's world on its head and drive him on a path to growth and change. So, it's good to know that they did next to nothing with this and apparently aren't this season either judging by your post.
I suppose it is possible that will still happen. Such is the curse of one-episode-a-week release schedules. Thus far, though, yeah, no. Full speed ahead on the commitment train.
 
Pretty sure it was meant to be taken literally at the time, Laurana. :)
That was a quote from Dave Filoni, not from me. 😄
I suppose it is possible that will still happen. Such is the curse of one-episode-a-week release schedules. Thus far, though, yeah, no. Full speed ahead on the commitment train.
Favreau has said that the fourth season has already been written and that he doesn't feel they're even half-way done with the story, so who knows where Din's story will end up.
 
I suppose it is possible that will still happen. Such is the curse of one-episode-a-week release schedules. Thus far, though, yeah, no. Full speed ahead on the commitment train.
So far it seems clear thet the season will be very Mandalorian centered and that we will probably see a change in that respect.
 
So far it seems clear thet the season will be very Mandalorian centered and that we will probably see a change in that respect.
I hope you're correct.

(Personally, I'd be happy to see Din's entire clan wiped out. They lack personality and depth, existing only to be a flaw in Din.)
 
Alright, I've finished Star Wars Resistance. Where I would rate season one perhaps a 3/10, season two clocks in at a comfortable 8/10. The show improved significantly when it stopped the hijinks episodes; since the main cast were relatively static caricatures, "the crew gets up to funny business as a means to character develop" does not really apply, and so these episodes were just agitating noise. A coherent plot arc across the season was a strength, and the maturity ramped as well as it did with Clone Wars and Rebels: there's executions and the like.

Still, the show highlights the wasted potential of the sequel era. So much could have been done, and instead we got, well... all that.
 
The new episode of The Mandalorian was... curious. It felt like they tried to emulate Andor. And the Mandalorian stuff was, uh. Something.

Spoiler :
Instead of Din changing, we're changing Bo Katan into a fundamentalist. Woo.
 
What got me was the way today's episode totally boba'd Our Hero, the alleged lead character.
 
New episode started well, a dog fight with Ties *blam blam*...Bo pulled that move!

Then it turned into Andor.
We get a wavy mini train ride thru Coruscant and they even threw in 'It's a trap' joke in there.

Cloning continues to play a major part in SW since 'AOTC' and Disney are forcing it thru to explain the sequels.
 
What got me was the way today's episode totally boba'd Our Hero, the alleged lead character.
This does not entirely surprise me. If you critically assess Din's place in the story, things mostly just happen around him. He's not very good at anything and is a static believer in incomprehensible dogma. Without random catastrophes happening around him constantly, he'd just sit quietly in a cave with his helmet on.
 
Kathy K fired some 'secret' sw movie scriptwriters the other day, business as usual over there.

Mando S3E04 - Jedi Jar Jar to the rescue directed by Apollo Creed.
 
Interesting. I wonder how people recognized him. I didn't have a clue.
Ahmed Best? He's pretty well known in the fandom AFAIK. Not too mention that specific character was originally created for the SW game show Jedi Temple Challenge. I was pleasantly surprised to see his sudden appearance and his now importance to Grogu's story.

Imagine if Grogu was rescued from the temple raid by Jar-Jar himself, hilarity!
There's still that wild theory about Darth Jar Jar. Considering he was on Coruscant during Order 66 he could very well be on that Naboo cruiser and be the one to deliver Grogu into the hands of the Empire. 😏
 
There's still that wild theory about Darth Jar Jar. Considering he was on Coruscant during Order 66 he could very well be on that Naboo cruiser and be the one to deliver Grogu into the hands of the Empire. 😏
 
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