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Ancient/Pre-Steam Unit Graphics

Discussion in 'Civ2 - Scenario League' started by Arthedain, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. CurtSibling

    CurtSibling ENEMY ACE™ SLeague Staff Supporter

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    Indeed Catfish uses one program, but it doesn't make it definitive.
     
  2. Fairline

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    GIMP is fine, but as Curt says, edit and save an existing units file to be safe.
     
  3. Fairline

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    This is an update to units I posted a few years ago, roughly covering the period of Louis XIV's reign in the latter part of the 17th and early 18th Centuries. Most of the main player's forces for the War of the League of Augsburg, War of the Spanish Succession and Great Northern War are now covered. It's a fascinating period of almost continuous, and sometimes parallel conflicts between Louis, William of Orange and his successor Queen Ann, Peter the Great and Karl of Sweden, together with their allies. Great generals emerged like Marlborough, Prince Eugene, Karl and Peter, and the WSS saw perhaps the first global war, with British and French fighting each other in the Americas and India, while 3 fronts were fought over in Europe at the same time as a separate conflict was occurring between the Swedes and all their neighbours... If you ask me (and you didn't) it's a period that really deserves a scenario making about it ;)

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  4. gapetit

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    :woohoo:Incredible Fairline units and with new ones for the Spanish Empire War of Succession:clap::clap::clap:.
    But could I make a request? Some units of the Portuguese Empire? :mischief: In some scenarios I made some adaptation of your units ... but beautiful Portugal deserves better.
     
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  5. Fairline

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    Thanks and will do, Portuguese on the way
     
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    Bravo! :b
     
  7. Fairline

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    Cheers :)

    @gapetit Updated above with Portugal. Unfortunately not much info on them, other than infantry and cavalry wore blue coats which changed in some regiments to off-white in the early 1700s. I couldn't find any details on artillery colours or uniforms. Not sure if their pikemen retained armour up to 1700; of the other nations, only Spain did so.
     
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    I love the grenade-lobbers, mate!
     
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    This is awesome stuff!
     
  10. gapetit

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    Great units :love:. Thanks very much Fairline :goodjob:
     
  11. gapetit

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    Fairline, by including the Portuguese infantry unit (1700-1715) in Asiento scenario, I have noticed that the pants one part is red and the other part black.
     
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    As far as I can see the Portuguese troops after the mid-eighteenth century blue and red predominated in their troops:



    But there is not much data from the beginning of the century.
    Yes, I had seen that in the battle of Almansa their uniforms were brown:

    But it is also true that at that time each regiment had very different colors. So your chosen tones seem totally correct to me.

     
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    Great pics!
    How magnificently men dressed to die back then!
     
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    Fairline

    Any chance in this time of global quarantine that you have some more units your willing to post? It has really come a joy to see your big compilations like this.
     
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    @gapetit I have c s Grant's 2 volume armies and uniforms of marlborough's wars which has good detail on most of the armies I've drawn, less so for Portugal. It suggests many regiments had adopted off white coats during this period with some retaining blue. Facing colours were different for each regiment. It has nothing on the Portuguese artillery.
     
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    @countmc thanks, and I imagine if the quarantine period extends to months I'll draw more....
     
  17. gapetit

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    White o grey coats Fairline? And you saw that the pants of the Portuguese line soldier are not correct?
    On this page:
    http://miniaturasmilitaresalfonscan.../uniformes-de-portugal-del-siglo-xviii-y.html
    there are uniforms of the Portuguese troops, and in the first engraving a cannon appears ... but it is not dated.
     
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    These are the units for the Almansa battle scene. But I have the problem with the Austrian lancer, who I see is a Polish ulano. Can I modify it by another Austrian unit?
    View attachment 549954
     
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    So the off-white or grey shade is debatable. Grant uses the term alvadia to describe it. The Bob marion illustrations in the book show a lighter shade than, say the french or Austrian grey.

    As for the breeches / pants this would vary from regiment to regiment as with most armies of the period. Marrions illustration has a regiment with green coat facing, green breeches and white stockings, but other regiments would have been different.
     
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    That looks interesting... what scenario is that?

    As for the uhlans, nobody other than Poland used them in this period. I think the Imperials had them by the Austrian war of succession, and certainly by the 7 years war, but not the early 1700s. Austria at this time had cuirassiers and dragons, with a few early hussars regiments, so I would maybe use one of these types..
     

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