Antarctic Ice Sheet Collapse

[Mark Young]

We here at CFC also debate military matters without serving in the military, foreign affairs without the corresponding doctorate, and politics without running for office. But now that you've shown up we can talk about the knighthood

So I should fit right in then?

And as for knighthood....

 

[brennan]

The one you your self quoted right above the text I just quoted. It was Ainwood's question. Here since you are having so much trouble I'll quote the question again just for you.

Wow, not only do you not understand my answer, you are trying to derail me by requiring I answer some irrelevant rhetorical question.

1) Show me that beaurocrats and not scientists write the IPCC reports.

2) Show me that the scientists who provide the basis for them disagree with these reports.

If you cannot do the above, the question is irrelevant. If the above are true, the answer is a simple 'yes.'

That doesn't sound like a study of the Kuwaiti oil fires, it doesn't even mention them. So what are you doing? Why are you passing off these quotes as if they are a study of the oil fires?

That's the same wiki quote i've pasted about three times already.

Here's the first thing that comes up (well, after wiki) if you google for 'effect of the Kuwaiti oil fires on weather patterns':

"Smoke from the Kuwait Oil Fires dominated the synoptic weather pattern throughout the Persian Gulf and surrounding region during 1991."​

@Sir Eric. Check out posting by user 'Gothmog' he hasn't been around for a while, but he was a climatologist.

 

[Pokurcz]

Stopping human greenhouse gas emissions is an impossible goal, and it will fail. We must take a different approach. This issue IS black and white.

But the Doomsday part isn't going to happen.



Why should I?? There's more brains in there than there are out here.

POW!!! Ohhhhh, YEAH, baby!!!! That is MY BEST BURN EVAR!!!!!!

(I think I just flamed everybody in CFC, but it was totally worth it..... )

Well I would not call it impossible, just very difficult, and necassery.
And there is hope.For example the development of batteries for use in electric vechicles has come a long way lately.

By the way. Do you realise that right there you implied that you have fecal matter for brains?

 

[BasketCase]

Do you realize that it's physically impossible for a human to actually get his head inside his own ass? And NO, the word is not "arse", it's "ass."

Anyway, you need to take into consideration the possibility that solving the problem your way just might be impossible. Because if it is, you're wasting valuable effort and time. And, strike electric batteries from your list--where do you think the electricity comes from? You actually produce less greenhouse gas by burning the gasoline directly in your engine instead of burning the gasoline in a power plant to produce electricity to run your engine. Yeah, better batteries will reduce the waste of energy--but to contribute significantly towards solving global warming, the source of that electricity must be a source that doesn't generate significant amounts of greenhouse gas. Maybe nuclear power. Which is currently not very popular.

 

[brennan]

Only Americans confuse their backsides with the offspring of horses and donkeys.

 

[BasketCase]

We don't speak English over here, we speak American. Over here, the correct word for "backside" is "ass". The correct word for donkey is "donkey".

 

[brennan]

...the correct word for ...

There are correct words in American?!?!?

Fusion power ftw btw.

 

[BasketCase]

Don't be too quick to jump to the fusion conclusion. I think you're going to find that it requires more energy to get fusion fuel than the reaction produces.

 

[brennan]

What makes you say that?

 

[Ayatollah So]

If you don't have a reservoir near-by to your emitter, then you need to pump the CO2 via pipeline to the reservoir.

That's why you build the power plant on the injection site, instead.

And the acid test on those figures:
If it really did only cost $1 / tonne, then with carbon credits currently trading at $20-30 / tonne, then this would be a licence to make an exceptionally huge amount of money.

Dunno much about carbon trading schemes. Would anyone pay such a credit to construct a new power plant (even if it does have carbon sequestration designed in)? That seems more than a bit wacky. That's like paying people to punch you in the face, provided that they pull their punches at the last minute to deliver only 10% of the normal blow.

 

[Berzerker]

brennan

That's the same wiki quote i've pasted about three times already.

Which is not a study of Kuwaiti oil fires... I asked you to explain why his study is flawed and you're just repeating yerself.

Here's the first thing that comes up (well, after wiki) if you google for 'effect of the Kuwaiti oil fires on weather patterns':

Which is not his study... You accused HIM of using bogus science, where's yer proof? Your link is 1 page and not a study - anyone's...

Although lower temperatures were recorded in 1991, Kuwait oil fires had no lasting meteorological impacts at any of the locations examined, and there has been no change to the seasonal
synoptic weather patterns throughout the Persian Gulf Region.

Gee, an ill-defined drop in temperature while the smoke was in the air. Thats it... Thats Sagan's year without summer, and brennan's "Singer is a fraud". He was right, Sagan and you are wrong.

 

[brennan]

Okay now I have no idea what you are going on about. I just linked you a seperate study stating that the Kuwaiti Oil fires dominated the region's weather for a year. So yeah, they dominated the region's weather for a year. You haven't linked jack Mister, if you can find Singer's study of the Kuwaiti Oil fires I mught be interested in paying you attention. But i'm fairly sure he didn't do one.

Yeah, i've accused him of bugus science, and i've posted that the study that was originally linked is full of political BS and not science. But hey, you carry on ranting. Anyone would think you are Singer or something...