Anyone got any tips for me?

sabo

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Ok here's the situation. I normally play Emperor level but I've tried a few Deity's and this is on of them. I'm Ottomans, Persia and I share the same continent. I am still a few inventions short of developing tanks but Persia already has MA. Is this a game I should just give up on or can anyone give me any tips to catch up. I just can't buy/steal techs fast enough.

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Personally in this situation, I would produce all the military units I could and hope for the best. Get them first!:mad:

They will come after you sooner or later, that wretched AI. :satan:
 
If the AI is already to MA, you're almost done anyway. Unless you've turned off certain victory conditions, they'll be launching soon.

Probably your best hope to win in the current situation try to trade/buy/steal any techs you can to get to the modern age, hope fission is your bonus tech. Start building a palace in your #2 production ASAP or have a GL ready. As soon as you get fission build the UN, gift all your money, tech and most of your cities to some of the weaker AI's. Hopefully that'll be enough to get their votes the next turn when the UN is complete. Since you built the UN you'll be one of the contenders, the other will be the #1 AI. If you've got enough votes you'll be able to 'steal' the victory, if not you were toast anyway.

Best of luck

:wallbash:
 
Go to War!!! :soldier: This is the fun part about Civ, taking on a superior nation, with obselete troops. Cherish this challenge, before you become too good.
 
Originally posted by Mr Black
Go to War!!! :soldier: This is the fun part about Civ, taking on a superior nation, with obselete troops. Cherish this challenge, before you become too good.

dats what imt talken bout dawg :goodjob:
 
I would assume you can switch to Communism (if you haven't already). Do that and then MOBILIZE. Create anything and everything you can, warriors, whatever, doesn't matter. Pop rush stuff, draft citizens. Throw the kitchen sink at them and then pull the piping out of the wall too. Create a line of obsolete death and then pound and pillage one of them, preferably with the other as the ally....if you survive that, go after the other one.
 
sabo10: do NOT forget the powers of pillaging (i.e. bombers) you can do a LOT of financial damage to the AIs, then go to I-take-towns-from-you war later ;)
 
In my experience the AI always mobilizes during war. So it can't build spaceship components until it makes peace. Its only a slight advantage but if you could keep a low level war going with them you can delay the space race.
 
I agree with denyd, your only real chance of victory is to build the UN. Do whatever it takes to get you into the modern age & steal or trade for fission ASAP. As soon as your about to get to the modern age start a palace prebuild for the UN then gift away. Drop EVERYTHING you own to the lesser AI's & start praying. Its your only chance to steal a win.

Good luck!!
 
Well I think I'm too far behind for the UN, I may be able to steal it later though, the problem is I could pick on Rome since he's not to far ahead of me in techs and not too big but he's on another continent. I really don't think going to war with Persia is an option like some of you said because even if I make an alliance with another civ, it's just me and Persia on this continent so my ally would really only amount to harrassing Persia with ships. Also I really don't think Sipahi's against fortified MI is a good idea, unless of course I build up a mass of Artillery. No I think my best bet is to build up my Navy and go after Rome, then build a palace over there and start cranking out troops, I just hope I have enought time left :)
 
Originally posted by sabo10
Ok here's the situation. I normally play Emperor level but I've tried a few Deity's and this is on of them. I'm Ottomans, Persia and I share the same continent. I am still a few inventions short of developing tanks but Persia already has MA. Is this a game I should just give up on or can anyone give me any tips to catch up. I just can't buy/steal techs fast enough.

I think you don't have much of a choice but to take Persia out of the game soon before they launch their spaceship. I think destroying Persia isn't hard if you have at least 20 more turns to go before they can launch. Since I don't really know what type of restriction you put on yourself, I can't really recommend the next move. If you are the type of player who don't have any ethical problem with using artillery then in addition to your existing force, rally up about 150 artilleries to take on Persia. Although each artillery unit cost 360 gold to rush from scratch, I usually wait a couple turns to rush them for around 200 gold or less.

//Edit: Silly me...I post before reading your last post. I think your UN option is very doable too; however, I still would like to eliminate Persia just to be sure. Since Persia is on the same continent, it is one more reason why I think they have to go.
 
use workers to build fortresses near your border and spaced 2 hexes apart .... will also need LOTS of arty and a good amount of cavalry and infantry, the latter for defending your forts and cities .... keep forts far enough from your border so his MA needs 2 turns to reach you .... when he moves into your territory, move your arty into the forts and bombard the S_it out of them, hopefully getting many of his units knocked down to a single hit point ... then counter-attack FROM YOUR FORTRESSES (and cities if necessary) with your cavalry ... you should be able to get one hit point most of the time ... then retreat back into fort, and w/draw your damaged counter-attacking units to a city w/barracks ... keep this up and you might wear down his army, and buy yourself some time to catch up with tech .... you probably will lose some of your border towns/cities, but if you can channel his attack toward your line of fortresses, you might have a chance ..... must stock up fortresses with rifleman/infantry, whatever you have, and a few defensive arty .... also, create "killing zones" around your fortresses i.e. cut down forests, clear jungles, etc., and try NOT to build fort adjacent to mountains or hills - do not want to give enemy a combat bonus of any kind ....

the Great Khan wishes you luck, and death to the Persian dogs!!!
 
I think you are all correct, I need to take out Persia. I was in Monarchy up to now because until I had to face Persia I was gaining ground in wars against other civs (They are all history now ;) ) so I have switched to Democracy and I can buy a new tech every 3 or 4 turns, in the mean time I'm building Infantry and Arty. I just want to get enought techs to build Battleships, transports, artillery, infantry, tanks, and fighters. Then I'm giong after that bottle neck in my middle south and attack his weak section in his East, I will use the Transports to attack his Capitol which is near the coast to destroy his SS, He's only built one part so far so I think I have time. Rome and Russia are fighting Persia right now to wear him down for me, I'll make an alliance with them and switch to commie when I'm big and bad enough :)


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hehe, good luck. Remember: cut his resources!!!!!!


If you can, pile three armies of 4 Infantry each into a stck with 30 Artillery or so and land THAT on his coast.... :Mwaha: And stzay OUT of commie as long as you can!
 
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